Daham Graham, I thought you were true green. I vote for Steve's place of business. He, if it's alright now to say it, has his technological brother (Jason Gregory) working along side. These two folks, and the fact they have some great and advanced boards, should be able to swing it and get a machine in no time. Other folks, with whom I've worked, such as Cray always pull out the old style vapor systems when the need arises. Let's face it, 50 layer boards with SMT and through hole can't be soldered any other way. Keep pushin a good thing, again, Graham, Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------