As always, thanks Peter. I've been down the same road with the same results. This time is different. I have too "young gun" designers wanting to do it their way. No problem as long as their way is my way. Every PCB designer with whom I've ever worked has a tremendous need to be creative. Not being an "artist" myself or artistic in any way, I want the facts man, just the facts and applied rather scientifically. Hell, I have one designer wanting to change MY master drawing notes. Not in my lifetime on this contract. These notes correlate almost exactly to IPC 600 acceptance SPECIFICATIONS. You don't mess with something that works and I wouldn't have said that a few years ago about IPC before it's resurrection. Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------