Using the big shops it's not a matter of "speeding up the process" it still take the same time to build a board. They just have available capacity and will place jobs ahead of others in the line from operation to operation. The advantage is they will have automated equipment, expensive wet process monitors, AOI, modern drills, mulit head flying grid testers. They tend to do fine pitch, blind and burried, laser micro via, high aspect ratio, the tough stuff that requires current technology equipment and processes as well as the easy. They are willing to cut the expedite fees, reduce tooling charges. Side benifit is you only pay tooling 1 time if you go to production with the same artwork. The smaller quick turn shop might give more help and better personal service. Good luck either way, we have had great success using the big guys for quick prototype for 1 1/2 yrs. Chris Almeras <[log in to unmask]> on 03/22/2002 07:02:16 AM Please respond to "TechNet E-Mail Forum." <[log in to unmask]>; Please respond to Chris Almeras <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] cc: (bcc: Warren Crow/US/I-O INC) Subject: Re: [TN] Quick turn fab shop There is one problem with going with the big boys who are hurting for work, if they have not been doing rapid 3-5 day turns, the quality issue can become a major issue when speeding up your normal process time. The quick turn shops who have been doing this kind of business for years may come at a little higher price, but their process in a quick turn environment is already stable, and some of those shops can turn a pcb in 24 to 48 hours. Just a thought. Chris Almeras DSI -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:58 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Quick turn fab shop With the pcb biz so slow now, most big shops are scratching for work. you can get 3-5 days turn with competive prices from the big boys, they have the latest equipment and technologies. Get the best of both worlds! Good luck! "Mauro, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> on 03/21/2002 12:15:27 PM Please respond to "TechNet E-Mail Forum." <[log in to unmask]>; Please respond to "Mauro, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] cc: (bcc: Warren Crow/US/I-O INC) Subject: Re: [TN] Quick turn fab shop Explain to me what each means to you? Then maybe I can pick any two..... Dan -----Original Message----- From: Mark Steele [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:03 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Quick turn fab shop Quick, good, cheap. Pick any two... Mark -----Original Message----- From: Mauro, Dan [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:07 AM Subject: Quick turn fab shop Hi all Can anyone out there suggest or give recommendations on a good quality quick turn fab shop. Greatly appreciate any suggestions. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------