I think Phil is on the right track. Get a couple of these coats and start washing and testing. The only thing you don't have control over is the type of washing your employees will do at home, i.e. temperature, amount of detergent, type of detergent, drying temperature, fabric softeners, etc. I guess you could have each person take your test coats home and wash them, test them and pass them on to the next. There are a lot of variables though. Ken Bloomquist Sr. Principal Process Engineer GENERAL DYNAMICS 9845 Willows Rd. NE. Redmond, WA 98052-2540 425-556-4554 [log in to unmask] www.gd-ots.com -----Original Message----- From: Phil Nutting [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:48 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Smocks I saved the threads from May and June of 2000 regarding ESD smocks for my own reference. Just reviewed them and there are arguments pro and con for wearing and washing. From the Electrostatic Discharge Association's web page http://www.esda.org/ This standard is listed for ESD garments. ANSI ESD STM2.1-1997: Resistance Test Method for Electrostatic Discharge Protective Garments This Standard Test Method provides test methods for measuring the electrical resistance of garments used to control electrostatic discharge. It covers procedures for measuring sleeve-to-sleeve and point-to-point resistance. Hope this is of some use. I have not selected a side of the fence to sit on. Phil Nutting -----Original Message----- From: Lee Whiteman [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Smocks Kathy, I would be very skeptical about using these types of ESD smocks. The ones that I'm familiar with would never survive washing at home. I've seen companies have their employees wear ESD smocks and shoes outside of their facility, wash their ESD apparel at home, and wonder why they have an ESD problem. I'm with Ron Dieselberg. Keep your ESD material controlled within your facility. That's really the only way you can control the quality of the ESD smocks. Hope this helps. Good Luck. Lee Whiteman Senior Manufacturing Engineer E-Mail: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Ph: (610) 362-1200 x208 Fax: (610) 362-1290 > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Kathy Kuhlow > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:50 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [TN] ESD Smocks > > > My company has considered changing to an ESD smock that the > operator can take home. Supposedly the smock can be washed > regularly w/o bleach and also dried with fabric softeners. The > smock is good for 50-100 washes. Something sounds wrong here. > Is anyone else out there using smocks like this, likes/dislikes, etc.? > > TIA > > Kathy > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------