Hey Jim, I'm curious. Did you hear, "no problem . . . " from the Fab house or the Sales guy? You're giving me flashbacks, Sales booked a new order (with material we haven't even played with) and us Fab Engineers developed a new process on the fly - for a quick turn! Fortunately, my lamination stuff usually required only minor tweaking. I feel your pain. Hans Gunship Motto: "You can run . . . but you'll only die tired." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hans M. Hinners Electronics Engineer Warner Robins - Air Logistics Center (WR-ALC/LUGE) 226 Cochran Street Robins AFB GA 31098-1622 mailto:[log in to unmask] Com: (478) 926 - 5224 Fax: (478) 926 - 4911 DSN Prefix: 468 -----Original Message----- From: Marsico, James [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:07 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] CIC... ONCE AGAIN Remember all of those e-mails back in November regarding MLBs with CIC layers? Well, it's time again... We went ahead and designed a CIC board, mainly because our present board house said "no problem, we do it all the time". Well, he fell on his face and now, 3 months after placing the order, he can't deliver. Obviously, he has little, if any, experience with CIC. His problem is "...inserting the invar material into the copper tanks kills the solution and provide no plating". He is suggesting gold plating the vias first, then copper plating. Has anyone ever heard of this before? Is this a viable solution? Anyway, we're now looking for a new board supplier who HAS experience with CIC. Any recommendations? This is a prototype run of 5 boards only. Thanks again for all your help, Jim Marsico Senior Engineer Production Engineering EDO Electronics Systems Group [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 631-595-5879 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------