I thought you were fisnin. Just where I should be now and will when this winter wears off. I just get a little hot, not at you, when improper supplier evaluation and qualification is done and things "happen" (BS) like with Jim's project. No excuse for it really. The thermount stuff, as you well know, has been around for many years like CIC. It has a special set of process requirements as well. The stuff frays around the edges and in the hole walls, is difficult to do a good fiber removal process, and dulls drills til the cows are hair lipped all over Texas plus some other neat stuff. Again, though, good process management in a highly qualified board shop with lot's of experience, and prooof of it, goes a long way. What happened to your AOI hunting adventure? Anything new or exciting? Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------