Good point Daan. Although, if you're fortunate enough to have the latest DEK stuff as FormFlex, this needn't necessarily be the case. Old Steve has one of those 288's, or whatever the number (I can't remember them as 265's or is it 283 GSX'S and LITE'S like my old Chevy engines), I think, and I got to play with one two years ago and again a few months ago. Anyway, anyone care to comment on the form flex stuff? I remember programming the fine pitch auto flex (fpa) and using the non fine pitch version as well as machining permanent fixtures to do the same job but expensive. Hell, I'm going down a stencil printing memory lane over the past 5 years plus I'm snowed in, bored, and freezing in MI. How times have changed! MoonMan --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------