Lot more than 2. The whole situation can get out of hand. I have a company here that designs, terribly, semi-sophisticated baords, hence my recent posts, based on price alone but for some minor management efforts to placate customers in the East to buy them. The designs are horrible but the folks in Asia find, they think, ways to work around C clamp mentality and product. They'll take anything and we bitch about it rightly so but need the bucks, or not. It is amazing what happens when an economy turns South when the efforts should be directed North to keep things upward and onward. Damned if I'll buy another PDA made of no intention of providing quality or anything resembling crap. Hell, with crap, you can smell it. Damn shame, Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------