Guy, Appreciate the input as always. The strange part of the story is the CSP's literally fell of the board as clearly shown in the photos now up on Steve's site. Stranger is the fact the CBGA soldered perfectly and was right next to the CSP/DSP's. You can see the solder paste columns as if the stencil was just lifted off the board. Stranger still, they didn't wet to the CSP balls. I do have a bit of criticism about your bug findings. I have bugs in my cave that solder wet rather well. You ever seen these little bbb's (bastard bitch bugs) some asshole introduced to this country to eat some other crap bug or larva. You know, the little brown bitch bastard ones looking like lady bugs but are brown. They're insidious and the winter cold don't kill them though they do come in out of the cold and bite hell out of you. They solder great. MoonMan with bugs but no way to RID myself of them. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------