Steve, My hot button has been on since I got involved with this TI crap. Used to go out with my favorite gal on Saturday nights. Screw that now as I'm up only now to do this stuff. Incredible! Hell, Werner is enjoying his grand kids and I can't figure out a way to do any of this stuff. Actually, there are four options but TI isn't offering the last one I will not go into now but will say it is doing four of these little DSP bastards in one "normal" super BGA. Back to no BGA as no BFD but it ain't happening. Why oh why? What the hell do they expect us to do. Though this thing has created a job for me, or whatever, I don't sleep nights or daytime trying to figure this out. This is a no win situation. Initially, I thought my current assembler, as inept as I first determined, was the real culprit. Hell, I might get you or some other highly qualified capability to assemble these things, and I'll get solder joints that are initiall acceptable. However, the reliability issues is a no go. I just don't get it. How can they do this? Thanks for the vent, Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------