I had already heard about IPC class 0 (that's when the components come separate, in a box). I suppose this is IPC class ½ ? The product works, but it's supplied with some extra's to keep it that way...... Daan Terstegge http://www.smtinfo.net ----- Original Message ----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:08 PM Subject: [TN] Creative Engineering and Manufacturing Methods.. Hi all! Earl sent me a photo showing a fine example of Creative Engineering and Manufacturing methods, and invites any comments B^} -Steve Gregory-