Steve, Like you say, it never ends. Not a criticism, but I stopped using silver back in 1888 or so. Yes, I said 1888. As we've all seen, I just never get used to a solder joint not having been formed over that minute amount of gold as in ENIG. You know my OPINION concerning HASL. Like you, I got over shiney years ago but often yearn for that as a required attribute. The key word is attribute - not a variable as in quality or reliability numbers. You have all the evidence, from outstanding sources you indicated, plus that recognized throughout industry. I think next week's discussion should be rested early in your favor. MoonMan --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To recieve ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------