Hi Paul, I work for Toppan Electronics in San Diego, we are a fab house. We strongly prefer ODB data. I tell our Sales people to beg for it! For the past 2 years we have tracked type of data (274D, 274X and ODB) and problems with that data such as bad aperture lists, missing layers, incorrect filename identification, etc, etc, etc. For example, for the last 226 jobs we have input we had 41 issues with gerber, 0 for ODB. That's a lot of phone calls and time spent just getting the data INTO our Genesis system. We allocate 5 min to get the data and import an ODB job, 30-40 for gerber (sometimes it takes hours for gerber, that happens about once a month...) I realize not everyone uses Genesis as their CAM system, but I would wager that a majority of the bigger fab houses do. So, yes, PLEASE generate ODB as a first choice and only send out gerber if asked too... Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong... Mark Steele CAM Automation Engineer Toppan Electronics, Inc. 858.695.2222 [log in to unmask] >-----Original Message----- >From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:28 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: [TN] ODB++ > > >From: Paul M Fly > >My employer is in the process of buying a couple seats of >Valor. Naturally >the >question should we give our vendors ODB++ rather than Gerber came up. I >would >be very interested in hearing about some of your experiences in this >matter. In >particular I would like to hear from some fabricators. How many PCB fab >shops >really prefer ODB++? I did a quick look at our preferred >vendors web site >and did not >find a word one way or the other. > >Thanks, >************************************ > Paul Fly > >Eastman Kodak Company >Engineering Technology Center - PEDT >2nd Fl. Bld. 205 K.P. >2400 Mt. Read Blvd. >Rochester, New York 14650-3007 >Phone: (716) 726-5670 >Fax: (716) 726-0275 >E-mail: [log in to unmask] >************************************ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------