Hi Jim! Didn't find it on the site, but IPC is fixin (Alabamese) to put it on. In fact it may be there by time this is posted. It is also attached. Mel Parrish Soldering Technology International Madison, AL 256 705 5530 256 705 5538 Fax [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Marsico, James Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:51 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Mil Spec Equivalent for IPC-A-610 Is the adoption notice available on the IPC web site? Jim Marsico Senior Engineer Production Engineering EDO Electronics Systems Group [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 631-595-5879 -----Original Message----- From: Mel Parrish [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:31 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Mil Spec Equivalent for IPC-A-610 Hans Depending on the exact year, the 454 (Requirement 5?) reference could be to any number of standards including WS-6536 or 45743, but you are very correct they were eliminated without any identified replacement. J-STD-001 has a recent DoD adoption notice that I can send if you like, or you can get it from IPC directly. Mel -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Hinners Hans M Civ WRALC/LUGE Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:08 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Mil Spec Equivalent for IPC-A-610 Hello Fellow Techies, Thanks for the comments! The original drawings are from the late 80's and we're conformally coating the assembly instead of using an insulating foam so I get to change/improve things. MIL-STD-2000 came out after the drawings (which reference MIL-STD-454). And then there's the disconnect when both specs got canceled without an identified replacement. I'd rather identify a non-government specification supporting DOD's decision to get out of the spec. business. (They had better solder the thing to J-STD-001 or I've got bigger problems than getting a good coating.) Happy Holidays. Hans Integrity First - Service Before Self - Excellence in All We Do ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hans M. Hinners Electronics Engineer Warner Robins - Air Logistics Center (WR-ALC/LUGE) 226 Cochran Street Robins AFB GA 31098-1622 mailto:[log in to unmask] Com: (478) 926 - 5224 Fax: (478) 926 - 4911 DSN Prefix: 468 -----Original Message----- From: Mel Parrish [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:10 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Mil Spec Equivalent for IPC-A-610 Hans The only standard from the Mil specs that expressly addressed acceptability like 610 was the DOD-STD-2000, Volume 3. The other standards like MIL-STD-2000 and 2000, Rev A included acceptability as would be equivalent to J-STD-001. Mel Parrish Soldering Technology International Madison, AL 256 705 5530 256 705 5538 Fax [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Hinners Hans M Civ WRALC/LUGE Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:42 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Mil Spec Equivalent for IPC-A-610 Hi All, Can anyone remember the equivalent Mil spec for IPC-A-610? Is it MIL-STD-454? Hans Integrity First - Service Before Self - Excellence in All We Do ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hans M. 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