George, Worked with some folks at Lucent while in Chicago (Andrew supplier to Lucent). I did GaAs failure analysis on a Toshiba part, etc. Jim Clemans was one and seemed a neat guy. Do you know him and where he might be? Also, what is Celiant? Is it a spin off of Lucent, and new entity, or? Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------