Ron, You sure would think that's what some folks use. Wish I had a big enough wand, or bat, to get some of those black magic folks to thinking. Use the dust and teeth gnashing on current future ex girl friend. Oops, there goes my Christmas. Thank goodness for guys like you and Bill. Thanks Bill for really laying it out. Wish I had you with me this summer in Chicago. Might have saved an entire product line. Sure hope the original questions were answered. MoonMan --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------