A quick review of moisture/time sensitive packages in our stockroom shows that: moisture sensitivity related material (shelf life/ prebake/sealed date/etc) is included on the outside bag as well as mfr/mfr part number/ p.o.#/ etc on material that comes from distributors or has not been repackaged by consigned suppliers. I also have examples in which a moisture-sensitive programmable supplied on tape and reel would also include the moisture sensitve information on the reel itself as well as the outside bag or box. I have a gut feeling that this is strictly up to the packaging specs of the mfr or distributor who has done the final blasting of the programmable. If your distributor offers programming of components, they may be able to mark both the reel and outside packaging. A good question to ask when you are quoting availability of material or sourceing a new distributor. If a device is distributed as a blank and then programmed or tape and reeled by an outside source, you may not have this information carried over from the outside packaging to the new reel. Customer part numbers and p.o. information are usually carried over to the new reel. As far as moisture/time sensitive components supplied in stick or matrix tray form, I do not show evidence that there is any indication of moisture sensitivity data or customer part number or purchase order information on the sticks or trays. This information is supplied only on the outside bag or box the sticks and trays were sealed in. Hope it helps. --Dean Lillibridge component engineer NEWvENTURE TECHNOLOGIES -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Tom Parkinson - Quality System Manager Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 11:39 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Moisture Sensitive Component Handling & Identification Nancy Our experience shows all the information is on the outside of the sealed bag. Customer supplied parts are usually pre-marked (by the customer) with their part number, reference designator, etc. on the outside only and the bag is still sealed. For parts that we purchase, our receiving inspection writes the info on the outside of the sealed bag. The sealed bags are not opened until ready for use. Tom Nancy Reynolds/MKT/HQ/KEMET/US wrote: > > Please forgive the idiotic sounding questions below, but I am losing a > battle and need some new ammunition.... If all you folks who work in board > assembly could give me a few quick yes or no answers, I would be quite > grateful. Any of my fellow component manufacturers' comments are also > welcome. Just 2 multiple choice questions... > > Regarding Moisture Sensitive components that are shipped to you in dry-pack > bags.... > > 1. Is the moisture sensitivity-related labeling info (MSL, Bag Seal Date, > Floor Life) found on... > a) Moisture Barrier Bag only? > b) Unit container (reel, tube, etc...) only? > c) Both bag and reel? > > 2. Is the component/customer specific labeling info (Customer part number, > PO number, etc...) found on... > a) Moisture Barrier Bag only? > b) Unit container (reel, tube, etc...) only? > c) Both bag and reel? > > Thanks in advance for any answers you might have. > Nancy Reynolds > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL > Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------