I think Ken is talking about the Black Box.
"Sarrouf, Michael" wrote:
>
>
> Yes, I agree with the fact that the Aircraft Might have Hit the Ground
> with the force of 700G's, Killing everyone. My Point is that Mr. Patel
> worded his email " The Aircraft can take on 700G Force" To me this
> sounds like he is saying the aircraft is structurally sound to with
> stand a force of 700G's.
>
> My Perception only!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Tim Weller [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:46 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Question for the physics "gurus"
>
> It's not the in-flight stresses, it's the sudden impact with the
> ground.
>
> "Sarrouf, Michael" wrote:
>
>
> Ken,
>
> Coming from a Pilot's stand point. There is no way an
> aircraft could pull 700g's. 7G's yes. People black out at
> 4.5-5g's if they are not wearing a Gsuit like the military
> pilots wear. Military pilots can pull up to 9g's but they
> are wearing the Gsuit. Most commercial aircraft might have
> the structural strength to with stand a 16G load Factor. At
> 700G's a person weighing 150lbs would weigh 35,000lbs.
>
> Are you sure it was not 7G's the aircraft was pulling??
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Patel [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 6:29 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Question for the physics "gurus"
>
> All,
> If G force is the gravitation force acting on the object
> then why many times an object is
> being designed to take so may G forces. What I have heard
> that voice recorder of the plane
> that went down in Pennsylvania can take on 700G force! So,
> if the free fall is 1 G then why
> design 700 times safer. So, height above the ground does
> matter. May be I got to take a look
> at the physic's book unless someone explain in layman's
> term.
>
> re,
> Ken Patel
>
> Timothy Reeves wrote:
>
> > No Jason,
> > I am not a guru, but that's OK. They are not
> interconvertible. One is a
> > measure of force, the other acceleration (actually a
> dimensionless
> > multiplier of the standard gravitational acceleration, g,
> 9.8 m/s^2). If you
> > have an object in mind of a known mass, you could find the
> force exerted on
> > it given the acceleration ("G's") by F = m a.
> >
> > Example: 100 gram object subjected to 5 G's ---------> F =
> 0.1 kg * 5 * 9.8
> > m/s^2 = 4.9 Newtons or 0.5 kilogram force or 1.1 lb-force.
>
> >
> > Tim Reeves
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Gregory [ <mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:01 AM
> > Subject: Question for the physics "gurus"
> >
> > How do you convert pound/kilogram to G-force? Is this
> convertable? Since
> > G-force is somewhat time derived and pound/kilogram is
> force derived?
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Jason Gregory
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