Yes, I agree with the fact that the Aircraft Might have Hit the Ground with
the force of 700G's, Killing everyone. My Point is that Mr. Patel worded his
email " The Aircraft can take on 700G Force" To me this sounds like he is
saying the aircraft is structurally sound to with stand a force of 700G's.

My Perception only!!

       -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Weller [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:46 AM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: [TN] Question for the physics "gurus"
>
> It's not the in-flight stresses, it's the sudden impact with the ground.
>
> "Sarrouf, Michael" wrote:
>
>
>
>       Ken,
>
>       Coming from a Pilot's stand point. There is no way an aircraft could
> pull 700g's. 7G's yes. People black out at 4.5-5g's if they are not
> wearing a Gsuit like the military pilots wear. Military pilots can pull up
> to 9g's but they are wearing the Gsuit. Most  commercial aircraft might
> have the structural strength to with stand a 16G load Factor. At 700G's a
> person weighing 150lbs would weigh 35,000lbs.
>
>       Are you sure it was not 7G's the aircraft was pulling??
>
>       Mike
>
>               -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Ken Patel [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>       Sent:   Wednesday, October 10, 2001 6:29 PM
>       To:     [log in to unmask]
>       Subject:        Re: [TN] Question for the physics "gurus"
>
>               All,
>       If G force is the gravitation force acting on the object then why
> many times an object is
>       being designed to take so may G forces. What I have heard that voice
> recorder of the plane
>       that went down in Pennsylvania can take on 700G force! So, if the
> free fall is 1 G then why
>       design 700 times safer. So, height above the ground does matter. May
> be I got to take a look
>       at the physic's book unless someone explain in layman's term.
>
>               re,
>       Ken Patel
>
>               Timothy Reeves wrote:
>
>               > No Jason,
>       > I am not a guru, but that's OK. They are not interconvertible. One
> is a
>       > measure of force, the other acceleration (actually a dimensionless
>
>       > multiplier of the standard gravitational acceleration, g, 9.8
> m/s^2). If you
>       > have an object in mind of a known mass, you could find the force
> exerted on
>       > it given the acceleration ("G's") by F = m a.
>       >
>       > Example: 100 gram object subjected to 5 G's ---------> F = 0.1 kg
> * 5 * 9.8
>       > m/s^2 = 4.9 Newtons or 0.5 kilogram force or 1.1 lb-force.
>       >
>       > Tim Reeves
>       >
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Jason Gregory [ <mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>       > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:01 AM
>       > Subject: Question for the physics "gurus"
>       >
>       > How do you convert pound/kilogram to G-force? Is this convertable?
> Since
>       > G-force is somewhat time derived and pound/kilogram is force
> derived?
>       > Any help is appreciated.
>       >
>       > Jason Gregory
>       > Software Specialist - NPI Group
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