hi, it's not the fall from 30,000 that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end. phil -----Original Message----- From: Sarrouf, Michael [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 6:55 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Question for the physics "gurus" Ken, Coming from a Pilot's stand point. There is no way an aircraft could pull 700g's. 7G's yes. People black out at 4.5-5g's if they are not wearing a Gsuit like the military pilots wear. Military pilots can pull up to 9g's but they are wearing the Gsuit. Most commercial aircraft might have the structural strength to with stand a 16G load Factor. At 700G's a person weighing 150lbs would weigh 35,000lbs. Are you sure it was not 7G's the aircraft was pulling?? Mike -----Original Message----- From: Ken Patel [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 6:29 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Question for the physics "gurus" All, If G force is the gravitation force acting on the object then why many times an object is being designed to take so may G forces. What I have heard that voice recorder of the plane that went down in Pennsylvania can take on 700G force! So, if the free fall is 1 G then why design 700 times safer. So, height above the ground does matter. May be I got to take a look at the physic's book unless someone explain in layman's term. re, Ken Patel Timothy Reeves wrote: > No Jason, > I am not a guru, but that's OK. They are not interconvertible. One is a > measure of force, the other acceleration (actually a dimensionless > multiplier of the standard gravitational acceleration, g, 9.8 m/s^2). If you > have an object in mind of a known mass, you could find the force exerted on > it given the acceleration ("G's") by F = m a. > > Example: 100 gram object subjected to 5 G's ---------> F = 0.1 kg * 5 * 9.8 > m/s^2 = 4.9 Newtons or 0.5 kilogram force or 1.1 lb-force. > > Tim Reeves > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Gregory [ mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ] > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:01 AM > Subject: Question for the physics "gurus" > > How do you convert pound/kilogram to G-force? Is this convertable? Since > G-force is somewhat time derived and pound/kilogram is force derived? > Any help is appreciated. > > Jason Gregory > Software Specialist - NPI Group > SCI Systems/Plant 2 > 13000 S. Memorial Pkwy. > Huntsville, AL. 35803 > (256) 882-4107 x3728 > [log in to unmask] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL > Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives > Please visit IPC web site ( http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm <http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm> ) for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site ( http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm <http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm> ) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------