why not do it in your swimming pool? -----Original Message----- From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: August 14, 2001 3:23 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for airplane-home Good Morning, We chaps here in foggy England are always being told that everything in the States is bigger and better, so why not find a plating shop with a large tank and anodise the fuselage? Lots of jolly colours to choose from as well! Regards Eric the Cad > -----Original Message----- > From: Crepeau, Phil [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 13 August 2001 23:33 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for airplane-home > > hi, > > i've seen articles about you weird people in wobeoregon doing this. why > not ask somebody up there that has already done this? kapton makes a > pretty good tape, but not much as a coating. > > why not use a catlyzed polyurethane coating which is what the military > uses to paint their non-stealthy aircraft? you should know, however, that > this will cause an unacceptable number of trees and wildlife (including > humans)to expire. > > why not ditch the 727 and build a sod hut? > > phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl VanWormer [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:59 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for airplane-home > > > Definitely off-topic, but interesting . . . > > I have a friend who is making his new home out of a 727 airplane (see > www.AirplaneHome.com <http://www.AirplaneHome.com> for details). He is > investigating coatings he might use to "paint the house", and has rejected > his first choice (Kapton) when he found that it deteriorates when exposed > to > UV and Oxygen (I think that was what it was). Since I've seen some > amazing > insights shared on this group, I thought I'd dangle this challenge in > front > of the group to see what happens . . . Any (and all) suggestions will be > appreciated and investigated. Please let me know of your suggestions and > I'll forward them to him. > > Thanks > > Carl Van Wormer > Cipher Systems > 1815 NW 169th Place, Suite 5010 > Beaverton, OR 97006 > Phone (503)-617-7447 Fax (503)-617-6550 > > > > p.s. here's a snippet from my last contact with the airplane/home owner: > Hot dog, thanks very much. I've always been very fond of RTVs - they seem > more stable than any conventional paint, or any other coating short of > Teflon. I've never in my life seen any evidence of any form of > deterioration > of RTVs, and they've been around since I was a kid. I've always thought > they'd make a great roof coating for my mobile home (back when maintenance > of > the structure would've been justified) or the freight vans. > > The timing is quite good too in that I've been thinking about coatings > again. > I've been pressure washing again in the last few days, and I've noted > that, > > while the color coats often flake off, the chromates don't, although they > can > bleed off. That is, the chromates seem to form a chemical bond with the > aluminum, whereas the paint just forms an adhesive bond, which, like all > adhesive bonds, is unreliable. When the pressurized water is forced onto > the > chromate at its most aggressive (with the wand within a cm or two of the > surface), the chromate sometimes get fainter and fainter as if they're > being > > abraded off. But they never peel. That's impressive. > > And that's what I'd like in a coating - a true chemical bond, so that it's > literally part of the metal, not just a layer over the metal. Well, that, > plus absolute immunity to UV, chemical weathering, and every other factor > that makes a coating just plain perfect. > > Teflon's been on my mind too. It's extremely stable of course. But I'm > not > > sure what the nature of it's bond is, or what the economics are - I need > to > look into it. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > ------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET > Technet NOMAIL > Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > > E-mail Archives > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for > additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 > ext.5315 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > ------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > ------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET > Technet NOMAIL > Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > > E-mail Archives > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for > additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 > ext.5315 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > ------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------