Chris, OOOOOh boy did you hit an old deep wound on the cubicle thing. We had a manager that had that old 60's mentality of management. He had to see rows and columns of people or there could not possibly be any real work being done. When we moved into a new building it was a nock down drag out fight to get at least short wall cubes, but the CAD seats had to be open, just our desk area was cubed. When he left the very first act we did was to get tall cubes for everyone and combine our CAD and desk area. Look out Team Centric management may be next. Bob Wolfe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Ball" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [DC] reliable through hole pad diameter > Jack- > > Sometimes a guy just wants a fish. Sometimes a guy is just visiting the > coast and wants to try fish. You could give him one or you could teach him > to fish. So he's gotta buy a hook and some line, probably a rod and reel, > maybe some bait. Then he has to learn how to bait the hook. He has to > learn where and when they bite. Pretty soon he finds he has to buy a boat > to do any good. So he decides he hates seafood anyway and goes back to his > cattle ranch. But if you'd given him a fish, maybe he'd-a liked it enough > to learn how to fish himself. > > I've always appreciated your posts here and I don't think there's anything > wrong with your response in this case. Just defending my old-fart response. > I think a newbie can be overwhelmed and may not want or need to know about > fabrication tolerances, IPC specs, etc. He may have no idea, nor care, who > will build his board or how they do it. > > He may just want a fish. > > They're converting our offices from cubicles to an 'open enviornment'. > Guess it's bugging me more than I thought. > > -Chris Ball > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. > To set a vacation stop for delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL > Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To set a vacation stop for delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------