In our all out stressful lives it does not hurt to stop in this all so technical world to smile. We do it so seldom.. So I say ones in awhile everyone should go for it. Nancy T. >>> [log in to unmask] 05/08/01 04:37PM >>> Here's another occasion to make some new enemies... though I really wish not. I don't agree with you Mary. Using this forum for non-technical messages is, from my point of view, not so different than having a normal conversation at work, which I'm sure everyone participating in this forum had every once in a while. It is only a matter of not abusing. If there are people who have the luxury of loosing a few precious moments of their working day reading and replying to these messages (as I'm doing now... no offence to those who do so...) it's their own problem and it should be left that way, just as we won't pay attention to those who chit-chat at work. After all, we're not very different from co-workers here, discussing our technical problem and building links which in time could become useful. Sometimes it could only be funny and it will allow us to forget, if only for a moment, our every day problems and replace them with a chuckle... No! I see no problems with non-technical content messages... If I don't have time to read them and/or if it does not interest me... I put them away or erase them. Have a nice day all, JF -----Original Message----- From: Mary Jane Chism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 3:40 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] No technical content? I beg to differ! Salvage the Age d thread I find myself in awe of how this forum is being used by a few of the "definitely" not funny technical personnel signed up to receive this. I for one am not amused. Every time one of you sends the other one an email that does not pertain to the "technical" field, we all are getting it. I am really not interested in all of this and I am sure some of the other participants would agree. Go into another "chatroom" if you want to talk about some of this "non-technical" stuff. -----Original Message----- From: Bev Christian [ mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 1:50 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] No technical content? I beg to differ! Salvage the Age d thread 1) Somehow I missed the "No technical content rule" for the title, but I will adhere to it in the future. 2) My one liner (see thread below) was a very calculated sentence. You will notice I used a good chemist "weasel" word - might. I was hoping to spark a good technical discussion on global warming. This is something that could affect us all in our jobs (technical) and in our daily lives with our families. I have made the topic one of my hobbies and am trying to collect as much information on the subject as possible. And since any human activity, including the electronics industry, could be contributing to the phenomena, I thought I would see what I could precipitate. OK, let me see if I can jump start this again. I am not even sure I believe in man-made global warming. How's that for a provocative statement? However, if it does exist, I don't want to leave a mess for my children and grandchildren. As a result I think we should act responsibly and do our best to conserve and change our spendthrift ways. Canada is, I think, the biggest offender on a per capita basis and yet here we are trying to claim credit for the carbon sink of pre-existing trees! So, to get to the technical part, assuming mankind can have an actual effect on the whole process, how do you think that the electronics industry is contributing, both good and ill to the situation? Diatribes, suggestions, statements ,etc. gladly accepted, as long as it ties into the electronics industry. Let the games begin. regards, Bev Christian Research in Motion -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [ mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ] Sent: May 4, 2001 5:18 PM To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Salvage the Aged Hey Bev, There ain't no "might" about it according to this article below...ain't nothing deadlier than a cow fart :^ { -Steve Gregory- 3/24/00 Canadian Company Tries To Reduce Cattle Flatulence For Environment CALGARY, Alberta ( http://www.nandotimes.com <http://www.nandotimes.com> ) - It sounds like a joke, but a Canadian electric company insists an agreement signed Thursday to reduce cow flatulence - a source of one of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming - is no laughing matter. TransAlta, Canada's largest private power provider, said it has reached the multimillion-dollar agreement with Global Livestock Group, a U.S. company, to produce a feed supplement for cattle in Uganda that would reduce their belching and flatulence. Sprayed on the cattle's hay and feed, the supplement would ease the animals' digestion to minimize expulsions of methane gas and produce more and better meat and milk, according to TransAlta. If successful, the decrease in methane gas expelled would be equivalent to 30 million tons of carbon dioxide, company spokesman Tim Richter contended. "People tend to snicker at the obvious joke, but when they look at the size of the emissions we're talking about here, they say, `Wow, that's a lot,"' Richter said from Vancouver, where the announcement was made at an international environmental business conference. Greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide and methane, trap heat in the atmosphere and are believed to contribute to global warming. They are largely produced from burning oil, coal and gas. TransAlta has pursued the deal as part of its strategy to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions to a net equivalent of zero by 2024. Though the company's plants will still produce gases, they will be offset by eliminating an equivalent amount of gases elsewhere through the Uganda deal and other planned projects. TransAlta operates power plants in Alberta and has holdings in the United States, Australia and New Zealand. The agreement is the type envisioned by the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, an international treaty for industrialized nations to reduce the amount of greenhouse gas emissions to pre-1990 levels by the year 2012. The protocol, which still requires ratification, includes a proposal allowing companies to continue producing a higher level of greenhouse gases by gaining "credits" through projects reducing emissions elsewhere. Environmental groups question the validity of the strategy. > They also might contribute to global warming. :) > > Bev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Werner Engelmaier [ mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ] > Sent: May 4, 2001 4:13 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Salvage the Aged > > > Hi Bernie, Brian, and other 'Old Farts" Collectively, > Many of us are kicking quite well, thank you very much. I play golf 4 times > a > week and play tennis twice---if I am not too (much too busy for my taste) > busy with work which lately I am. When my company down-sized, I grabbed the > opportunity of the Early Retirement package offered--the people too young > for > it felt discriminated against--and started consulting; surely one of my > better decisions. > Bernie, don't let those Senior Moments get to you. > Brian, lay off the beans; besides the obvious effect, they also give you > gout. > > Werner Engelmaier ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site ( http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm <http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm> ) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- WABTEC CORPORATION CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE The content contained in this e-mail transmission is legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named herein. 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