low foaming water sol. solder mask?Based on your description you could
always try selling the process to Spielberg or Disney.
Hear you on the sodium salt of polymer....,  but as Graham says, some
saponifier brands are much better at foam suppression, or conversely more
likely to foam than others.

Mike Fenner
Indium Corporation

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  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:39 PM
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  It is not the chemistry, by itself it has about zero foam.
  Boards from the surface mount line clean without foam occuring, i.e. no
w/s mask.
  It even foamed with a competing brand.
  Foaming is only seen when boards from the wave solder line w/gobs of w/s
mask applied are run.
  The incoming water is hot.
   Bottom line is the one constituant in the mask, Sodium Salt of Polymeric
Carboxylic Acid, combine this with rosin flux and you get the StaPuff
marshmellow monster from ghost busters.
  So I know whats causing it, I'm just looking for what others are using and
not seeing these issues. Thanks
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    From: Graham Naisbitt [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
    Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:32 PM
    To: TechNet E-Mail Forum.; Charlie Pitarys
    Subject: RE: [TN] low foaming water sol. solder mask?


    Charlie

    Are you sure it is not the wash chemistry that is reacting this way? My
experience suggests that this is more likely.

    Regards, Graham Naisbitt

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      Can anyone recommend a low foaming w/s solder mask that does not cause
foam to belch out of a batch dishwasher.
      I am cleaning rosin flux so a wash chemistry is needed. The current
mask (includes a sodium compound)coupled with wash chemistry is causing
severe foam.

      Thanks