Thank you all for your responses so far. Can anyone else out there give me information (good or bad) on Quad Systems pick and place? We are somewhat heavily invested in their equipment and are contemplating buying more. I need opinions and/or experiences to , hopefully discourage if that be the case, more purchases. So far I have not heard anything positive. We seem to have a lot of trouble with consistent placement accuracy. Thank you and regards, Bill mengers SMT Process Engineering Northrop Grumman Corp. Baltimore --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------