You might try Soldering Technology International (STI) in Madison, AL. Jim Raby is also a consultant and with his son David has a full manufacturing floor that they just put in new equipment. I know it is not in the west but a little closer. 256-461-9191 is their phone number and they are on the web. They recently pick up folks who like myself were associated with the EMPF from China Lake to Indianapolis to it current location. I worked with Jim Raby's company for year and half before joining PEI. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Barry Gallegos [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:55 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Electronics Manufacturing Training Hello Once Again TechNetters. I was wondering if there is any type of Training Programs like the one that EMPF offers for process training. specificlly in the west. Barry Gallegos, PE Western Electronics, LLC 1550 South Tech Lane Meridian, Idaho 83642 Phone 208-955-9771 Fax 208-955-9751