Dear All, I am Julian Coates of Valor Computerized Systems. We are the people who introduced ODB++ to the industry, and we are also supporting any and all third-party CAD/CAM companies who want to implement the format into their systems and maintain format-compliance on an on-going basis. It is very difficult to say what the level of adoption of the format is by the industry, but one phenomenon that we have seen during the last year is a significant acceleration in adoption of the ODB++ format by other CAD/CAM companies. During the last twelve months more than 10 additional CAD/CAM companies embarked on implementing the format, in addition to the 5 who had created an interface previous to that. Also, during last year, both Mentor Graphics and Cadence implemented ODB++ as a standard output for all their customers, delivering the CAD postprocessor free of charge to their user-base. We know that certain OEMs are actively using ODB++ for data exchange with manufacturing in their day-to-day operations: Fujitsu, EMC, Intermec, 3COM, Lucent, Maxtor, Alcatel, Cisco, Scientific Atlanta, Agilent, and Qualcomm are some of these companies. On the side of the manufacturers, we know that the following companies not only receive ODB++, but actively encourage their customers to send it because of the quality, cost and time advantages: Viasystems, Hadco/Sanmina, Tyco, Photocircuits, Coretec, Velie, CMK, Plexus, Celestica. These are the companies that we know of, and we are often hearing of new ones switching over to ODB++ from the previous cocktail of Gerber/netlist/placement-list/Excellon/BOM. I realise that the above information is largely qualitative rather than quantitative, but we believe that it paints a realistic picture. If anybody wants to know more about the scope of ODB++, and Valor's approach to supporting it's implementation, I would be glad to help. Best wishes, Julian Coates Vice President, Corporate Marketing Valor Computerized Systems Ltd. (Israel) www.valor.com [log in to unmask] tel: int+44 790 171 2552 > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Robert Lazzara > Sent: 09 January 2001 21:53 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Use of ODB++ > > > In a message dated 1/9/01 4:11:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] > writes: > > << I would like to know how widely ODB++ has been adopted as a means of > delivering a PCB design to a manufacturer. Has Gerber been replaced as a > source file? Has Gerber been augmented by ODB++? >> > > At this writing less than 5% of our business originates in the > ODB++ format. > Gerber is still king, but the sun is setting on 274X . > > Bob Lazzara > Circuit Connect, Inc. > +1 706.245.4232 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following > message: SET Technet NOMAIL > Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & > Databases > E-mail Archives > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for > additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or > 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------