In a message dated 1/24/01 1:20:24 PM Central Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << As you know, underfill is rarely used for higher pitch BGA (1mm or 1.27mm). Unfortunately, I've lent my proceedings to someone, so I can't give you much detail. Hope this helps. Charles Elliott >> Hi Charles! That's what I'm learning, from everything that I've been reading from the stuff I'm finding on the web (when talking about underfill), are mostly dealing with flip-chip, or other CSP packages... Yes, when dealing with CSP's and flip-chips, it has been shown that underfilling increases the reliability (depending on what you read), two to four fold... So the next big question is; is it REALLY necessary to underfill standard pitch BGA's? Maybe our customer has seen the data for flip-chips and CSP's and feel that if it helps with these packages, it must also help with standard pitch BGA's. Our customer is a defense supplier by the way... What I have learned is that if you want to increase BGA reliability, use PCB materials that have low CTE's...that's where the real problem is, since BGA solder joints aren't as compliant as gull-wing joints... I have learned that our customer hasn't really spec'd out a material yet, researching the rework-ability of different materials...I've learned that is a pretty big consideration, whether the material is thermo-setting, or thermo-plastic... I've got so much to learn! -Steve Gregory- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------