Thirty years later and the Court is still making mistakes!!! ;-> > Supreme Court Ruling Griggs v. Duke Power in the mid-70's ruled that you > could not test for general intelligence in hiring. Of course this has been > expanded by lawyers and their social ilk into not testing for much of > anything. It's all CYA. It's worse in large businesses than small because > of professional HR. Perhaps the best route is through a "trial period" as a > temp or intern, if someone is smart and wants to work, just about everything > else (within reason) will follow. Take it from a former philosophy major, > bicycle mechanic, prison warden who now designs circuit boards and manages a > lab which does radiation hardness testing. Go figure... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David J. Sanchez [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:15 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] > > > IMHO > > I am wondering why you don't test your applicants on those basics before you > offer them a job? Can't you make a year of high school electronics a > minimum prerequisite for those positions? To me you are really scraping the > bottom of the barrel and you may need pay more money to attract better > people. I guess that is what happens when the economy is good. > > You can start a high school work experience program. With internships or > with work experience programs you don't even have to pay them or you can pay > them less then minimum wage as they learn. (Check your local labor laws) > Once they graduate they are ready to work for you. > > If they can't deal with decimals or fractions, throw them back. > > TTFN > > David > > > > Kelly.. > > Maybe we need MORE preaching!!! We definitely > need MORE parenting and LESS worrying about > political correctness. Enough.. Have a great > weekend. > Regards, > Bob > Mike & All - > > Happy New Years - You too Aussie-lek, if you're awake, > > My personal feelings are that too many parents, of these folks, have spent > too little time getting in behind the kids at a time when it counted and > leaving the problem to those of us out here!!! Our social systems, at least > here in the U.S., these days, seem to tolerate even less than mediocrity. > Thankfully, I went thru the schools, in years gone by, when a kid who was > inattentive or had an "attitude" problem had a whole lot more to be > concerned once he got home. The last thing I ever wanted my was for my > folks to learn about was that I over stepped my bounds or goofed off in > class. > > I never doubted that Mom, Dad or anyone else in my family loved me. I > simply understood that I had an obligation to them and my future, and no > quarter was allowed. As a family, we just didn't have any room for failure, > nor did may others, back in the early '40's. Having spent some time in the > military in various projects reinforces my overall feelings in this matter. > > Fractions and decimals are a normal part of life if a person just pays a bit > of attention to their surroundings and does a minimal amount of brain > work!!! > > Pardon me for preaching. > > Y'all have a good day, a wonderful week, and try to stay warm - > > Kelly > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Fenner <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: [TN] > > > As an aside I mentioned this to my (primary school) teacher friend. > For what it's worth I pass on her remarks: > What they do is to use clementines (small easy peel oranges). These > neatly segment into halves quarters and so on, apparently the > difficulty is getting the "numberness" of fractions over and this is a > good way of illustrating it visually. You can see a quarter [1/4] and > three quarters [3/4] etc.. Apparently once this concept has been > grasped fractions are then easy. A further benefit for her pupils > anyway is that you can then eat your work..... > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelly M. Schriver" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 9:32 PM > Subject: Re: [TN] > > > Hi Phil - > > I had to teach the fraction and decimal reading many years ago and > took the > following approach, which seemed to work. I prepared Vu-Graph > slides, to > scale, of both types of rulers (decimal & fraction), adding actual > markings > to them to help the students grasp the concepts, then had them work > along > using identical rulers at their training work stations. The final > exercises > consisted of a test of taking measurements of small wood blocks, > then we > graduated to the use of calipers, micrometers and feeler gages.. > > For a few students, I had to use graphic illustrations of squares, > subdivided by both decimal and fractional elements. > > IMHO (in my humble opinion), it worked, but I always wondered where > these > folks were during third and fourth grade math classes which were > paid by our > tax dollars. > > Regards - Kelly > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Nutting <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:56 AM > Subject: [TN] > > > Happy New Year All, > > In our in-house training program we include not only soldering, but > through > hole assembly techniques, print reading, component identification > and > reading a scale or ruler. One problem we have encountered is there > are some > assemblers that have no understanding of fractions. I'm looking > for a good > method of teaching fractions and what all those little lines on a > ruler > mean. > > Any comments? > > Feel free to contact me online or offline. > > Thanks in advance. > > ps, I give up. What is IMHO? I know ROFL, LMAO and LOL, but IMHO? > > Phil Nutting > Manufacturing Engineer > Kaiser Systems, Inc. > High Voltage Power Supplies That Work(tm) > 126 Sohier Road > Beverly, MA 01915 > ph: 978-922-9300 > fx: 978-922-8374 > [log in to unmask] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET > Technet NOMAIL > Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > > E-mail Archives > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 > ext.5315 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet > NOMAIL > Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > > E-mail Archives > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 > ext.5315 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send the following message: SET Technet NOMAIL Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------