Some years ago , I went to three seminars given by Technology Associates, which I believe, had Bud Trapp as a principal. I still have the notebooks from the courses and found them quite useful. Does anyone know whether this outfit still exists and offers technical seminars, and whether Bud Trapp is still around? A search engine search returned either way too much information ("technology associates") or too little (O.D. Trapp). Thanks 'Netters John ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ##############################################################