Hi Steve, Why not turn it around as an opportunity to improve the entire fab/process? In order to profitably accept this work, we will have to improve . . . procedures, equipment, and mindset. It's easier for some to hear, "Yes, we can do that if/but . . ." than "No, we can't and here's why . . ." My business sense says, "never turn down profit". It may not be an easy profit but it's money in the bank. Hans ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hans M. Hinners Materials (Process & Manufacturing) Engineer Warner Robins Air Logistics Center Avionics Production Division Manufacturing Branch 380 Second Street, Suite 104 Building: 640, Mail Stop: LYPME Robins AFB, GA 31098-1638 Voice: (912) 926 - 1970 Fax: (912) 926 - 7164 mailto:[log in to unmask] http://www.robins.af.mil -----Original Message----- From: Stephen R. Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 10:21 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Space Electronics... Hi ya'll! Here where I work, we do a lot of hi-rel, military stuff. But we've recently got a bid package of twenty or so assemblies that go into satellites. We sat down and had a meeting about this business of whether or not we should pursue it... I voiced my concerns in that I don't think anybody really has a clue of what kind of massive undertaking this will be given the way that we do things now. "But Steve, we build hi-reliabilty assemblies now..." and my reply has been; "But you ain't seen nothing yet!, the process requirements that must followed to the letter, and the documentation trail that will go along with each and every board is going to be massive..." I don't have any first-hand experience building space hardware, but what little I've learned or heard about it, made such an impression on me that I know that it's not something that I would want to get into... Those of you that are into this stuff; am I over-reacting or what? Can your average contract assembly company (that does have experience with military electronics) jump into this? Some are poo-poo'ing me saying I'm sweating things too much...I don't think I am. -Steve Gregory- ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ##############################################################