Few glue suppliers will have info on tensile, but they will have  for shear. Try asking for that
instead or look it up on the data sheet. As a very rough approximation tensile will 85 -90 % of
shear, but be careful when setting up tests that you don't inadvertently test for peel as the
numbers you get will be deceptively low. Some of the adhesive suppliers have a handy torque
tester like device, you set this at say 90% of the theoretical number and this allows you to
test non destructively on real boards.

As Steve said they will be small numbers, [if you assume a typical SMT adhesive has a shear
strength of say 2000 psi you can work out a pretty good estimate of the likely real number from
your dot size.] The shear force on a component from the solder wave is actually quite small and
most adhesives will exceed this. If you are getting drop outs I personally would suggest you
might want to look in to your glue handling procedures. Be on the look out for having two: the
one that's written down and the one that actually goes on. A goodly proportion of adhesive
problems are finger problems/handling related, most probable one is material going out of time


Mike

Original Message -----
From: Stephen R. Gregory <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TN] Pull Test for Glue Process


> In a message dated 06/14/2000 5:48:48 PM Central Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> > Fellow tech netters,
> >
> >                 I am trying to setup some pull test specs for our expoxy
> >  process, we currently using a DEK screen printer and a FUJI FGL2 to
> >  dispense glue. Does any one know what are the pull test (in pounds) for the
> >  different components (example 0805, 1206, Tantalums, etc)?. I have found
> >  that the only way of knowing if a populated board with glue is going to
> >  withstand the handling is by having a pull test as a process measurement.
> >  Any ideas?
> >
> >                 Thanks
> >
> >
> >  Jorge Rodriguez
> >  Process Engineer
> >  Conexant Systems
>
> Hi Jorge!
>
> I'm going to offer my opinions, but they are only that. My opinion of
> quantifying the force it takes to separate a component from the epoxy bond is
> a little over the top, you could be spending your time doing better things...
>
> The epoxy used to bond components for wave solder has very little strength to
> withstand rough handling in the process, and that's where I would concentrate
> my efforts if it were me. People need to understand that the boards that have
> epoxied components on the bottomside need to be handled very carefully. The
> epoxy is only supposed to hold the components on enough to be waved...they
> can't be handled in the same way as boards that have soldered components on
> them. Of course it's not a good idea to be banging on soldered components
> either, but you catch my drift...
>
> I've been through similar situations. The boards come off of wave missing
> bottomside components, and the first thing that has been pointed at was; "you
> didn't cure the epoxy good enough..." or; "you didn't put enough epoxy
> down..." But they have a hard time arguing with me when you can look and see
> that the epoxy that was deposited is still on the board and has the imprint
> of the component is still in the epoxy...it was obvious that the component
> was there and got knocked off...
>
> Epoxy cure is simple...I set 150-degrees C. across all zones in my oven and
> set the belt speed to make sure it sees that temp for at least a minute and a
> half...simple.
>
> When a lot of people hear the word epoxy, they think that it's the same two
> ton strength stuff that you use to repair your broken chair leg with, but
> it's not. People need to learn to handle boards very carefully with epoxied
> bottomside components....
>
> My two cents...
>
> -Steve Gregory-
>
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