Hi Jens the explanations of ever longer lead times from our SEA fabs is rising domestic market . Considering the main component of this domestic rise is CH, this is indeed a maelstrom effect : some of the CH owned OEM's almost ceased outside contracts. We have to validate fabs as ongoing issue, as it is very difficult to receive bulk from few fabs only ; if you don't own them . Same goes for laminate validations, the bow/delam/etc. tests through reflow/chamber are on increase as well . I'd agree the worst is to come, to a point of gains for cheaper substitutes. paul klasek -----Original Message----- From: PCBA [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, 23 June 2000 10:49 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] FR4 Shortages - is there a problem? Hi all, what is now the situation for FR4? Are there still delivery problems? Will it get better or worst? I just spoke to one of the major glass fibre maker and they say that the major impact is still to come. Any comments on that? regards Jens Behrens ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ############################################################## ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ##############################################################