Have you checked the D-code list after importing into the Lavenir ? There should be some rectangular shapes of the sizes that are typical for SMT pads. I was thinking that maybe Lavenir made a bad guess ? Daan Terstegge Unclassified mail website: www.daan.tmfweb.nl >>> "Stephen R. Gregory" <[log in to unmask]> 02/14 5:07 pm >>> Hi ya'll! Well, I've finally run across some gerbers that I can't read (at least not all of the files I think)...in either Lavenir Viewmate or GC-Preview. It's weird, I can see the board outline, all the traces in each of the 8-layers, and the PTH's, but not the surface mount pads (they're on the bottomside). I know it's from Zuken because that's what Lavenir tells me it is when I load the aperture list and tells me the format when I ask it to "Guess type"...it recognizes all 120 shapes...but still no SMT pads. It's gonna be hard to get a stencil or program the board (we use GC-Place) if I don't figure out what I'm doing wrong...any ideas? One other question, I'm just curious how many of you out there ever run across boards that have no silkscreened reference designators on the board? or polarity markings for polarized components? The PTH components don't even have square pads for pin-1?!? Really makes things tough building boards like that in my opinion... I just was curious how common it is, and if there's a real reason for doing that.... Thanks! -Steve Gregory- ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5365 ############################################################## ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5365 ##############################################################