First of all, with all the hazardous chemicals in an electronics manufacturing shop, your subcontractor allows water to be consumed in their shop???? Even with a pseudo "sports bottle"??? For employee health and safety issues, I would strongly recommend that this practice be stopped. Hazardous materials can be ingested, inhaled, and absorbed by the skin. ANSI/IPC-A-610, in section 3.4.1, as a guideline, indicates that "There must not be any eating, drinking, or use of tobacco products in the work area." In ANSI/J-STD-001, in section 3.7, "Eating, drinking, and/or use of tobacco products shall be prohibited in the workarea." for operating in a class 3 environment. While the hardware might not be damaged or effect reliability by these practices, accidents with food and drink will happen which will damage the hardware. Therefore it is a cause for concern which should be remedied. From a historical perspective, documents like MIL-STD-2000 prohibited eating, drinking, and/or use of tobacco products from the workarea, citing potential material contamination issues. If I was your subcontractor, I would get all the food and drink off the shop. Lee Whiteman Senior Manufacturing Engineer ACI / EMPF Telephone: (610) 362-1200; Ext. 208 FAX: (610) 362-1290 E-Mail: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Kenny Bloomquist Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 10:41 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Drinking Water As long as Steve has brought up the touchy subject of safety glasses I thought I'd throw in the touchy question of drinking water on the line. We work to J-STD-001 and flow that down to our subcontractors. We have a subcontractor that has always allowed their operators to have a jug of water at their bench. The containers they use are ESD safe and have a straw out the top so they don't have to touch the top of the container where they drink (unlike a sports bottle with a pop up top) . Two questions, what is the problem with this approach and when the spec refers to "drinking" does it mean water and why? (woops I guess that's three questions) Thanks, Ken Bloomquist Sr. Principal Process Engineer PRIMEX Aerospace Company P.O. Box 97009 Redmond, WA 98073-9709 http://www.primextech.com Ph: 425-885-5000 FAX: 425-882-5786 [log in to unmask] Northcon/2000, Chairman of the Board http://www.northcon.org Electronics Manufacturers Association (EMA), President http://www.ema-wa.org ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ############################################################## ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ##############################################################