yo' got me here, how does ECR work Joyce ? and $ ?
Sounds better than baked 3pack duco on abrased bonnet
paul
-----Original Message-----
From: joyce [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, 4 December 1999 13:09
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] anti-abrasion finish
May be you should look into large area SiO2 deposition using ECR (electron
cycletron resonance) process. It is NOT high vacuum process and can be used
for large area coating (don't ask me how to rework or take it off....)..Good
luck.
jk
At 08:09 AM 12/4/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Carey I have no idea where Ralph is coming from (wet or dry process),
>only thing understood was protection of metal .
>You're quite correct, TiN coats are vacuum and vapor deposit,
>nothing wet about it .
>
>Where did this wet note came from , Ralph did not mention any (neither me).
>You got me bit confused : know the application ?
>Why did you highlight the refractory character ?
>And, yes , big sheet coat is a process (and chamber) problem
>
>Paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carey Pico [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Friday, 3 December 1999 10:33
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] anti-abrasion finish
>
>
>Can you get a decent TiN coating with wet plating? I thought that was a
>vacuum process.
>
>Carey
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Klasek <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 2:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [TN] anti-abrasion finish
>
>
>>Why don't you try Ti Nitride coatings Ralph,
>>there are 3-4 different colours/formulations (apart from the oldest
goldish
>>one);
>>they're relatively cheap, work superbly ;
>>it's basically a ceramic coat, with mildly different hardness ratios .
>>Metal finish is always inferior to ceramic coats ;
>>and those nowadays go even to engines = quite common .
>>Microcrystalline alumina is way out of any metal's reach ;
>>as you're moving just below diamond ceiling in carborundum strata .
>>
>>You can also get the part sintered fully from ceramic compound,
>>if possible/necessary/affordable = pending application
>>
>>Let me know if you get stuck or need more details,
>>with application
>>
>>Paul Klasek (aka the carbon fan [as all of us])
>>ResMed
>>
>>PS
>>The cer coats being hard are fragile = you still need a very good (hard)
>>base,
>>and treat the part as an egg .
>>Than the polish (lengthy, automated, as glass polish) = smooth surface,
>will
>>lengthen the life of the surface.
>>Still, keep in mind you're in 9.th (10.th diamond) scale with alumina,
>>don't expect infinite service .
>>
>>PPS
>>The synthetic diamond has been formed in few labs,
>>but we'd be in straight vertical stratosphere on $'s .
>>
>>NB
>>Just hook on search engines with "ceramic coats" and "ceramic tool bit (or
>>tip)" ;
>>should give you plenty options .
>>Cer. tip could be the one for you
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Vaughan, Ralph H [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>Sent: Friday, 3 December 1999 5:50
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: [TN] anti-abrasion finish
>>
>>
>>Hi TN,
>>
>>A follow-up query to a recent posting about sand-type abrasion for you
>>metalheads (Dave H., you there?); Is there a metal finish that will
>>withstand rubbing wear from aluminum oxide powder? we have tried tungstun
>>carbide and stellite with 'no joy'. Any light bulbs going on?
>>
>>Thanks for thinking
>>
>>Ralph Vaughan
>>
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