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Hinners Hans Civ WRALC/LYPME <[log in to unmask]>
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Hey Graham,

We recently switched from a Gardiner formula RMA flux to Kester 186 and
186-18.

The chemistry we use in our PVC plumbed Tooltronics Ultra Clean II is Kyzen
XJN.  My Division also has a couple of stainless steel Westek cleaners as
well.  XJN has worked fine for typical boards but not all our stuff is
typical.  I'm still working on a presoak to loosen up the tougher areas.
One concern I have is using a piece of equipment from a company which no
longer exists.  There's no handy 800 number to call when I'm 'discovering'
something new.  I'd stay away from Armakleen, our experience - it scales up
way too much and doesn't last very long, but I've never personally used it.

I would highly recommend holding out/begging for a machine with stainless
steel pipes.  We have a 'plan' to retool the Tooltronics with stainless
steel for around $20k or so.

The latest is coming up with enough baskets for lighter/smaller boards which
float above the conveyor belt.

Later,

Hans


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Hans M. Hinners                                 WR-ALC/LYPME Bldg. 640
Materials Engineer                                      380 Second Street,
Suite 104
Manufacturing Eng. Sec.                         Robins AFB GA 31098-1638
912-926-1970 (Voice) 468 - 1970 (DSN)   912-926-7974 (Fax)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Collins, Graham [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 07:00
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      [TN] inline cleaner / RMA flux
>
> Good Day Technet!
>
> I'm looking for recommendations today.  We use RMA flux and currently use
> a
> batch cleaner (semi-aqueous).  I'm looking at a big upswing in volumes
> (YAY!), which will obviously mean more cleaning - so I'm looking into
> making
> the leap to an inline cleaner.
>
> Does anyone in the RMA world have recommendations for particular machines,
> and/or cleaning additive?  We are using Bioact EC-7R in our batch cleaner.
>
> My other restrictions?  Due to budget I'm looking for a used machine, and
> please don't suggest that I change from RMA flux.  I'd love to change
> fluxes, but to even suggest it to one particular customer causes them to
> start to twitch and pop prozac like they are M&Ms...
>
> As always, thanks for any help!
>
> Graham Collins
> Process Engineer,
> Litton Systems Canada, Atlantic Facility
> (902) 873-2000 ext 6215
>
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