It would worry me if somebody like you would understand Ron .
thanks a lot (for positive confirmation)
Paul Klasek
ResMed
PS
Analysis (just for you) :
1
Mike's alluded collusion (find it in dictionary) ; I disagreed (knowing Mark
little bit, his Q's been just WELL used);
knowing how many silent "members" utilize this Net for solely monitoring
(not contributing) purpose.
2
I find the "offer" of third body auditing :
2a
not appropriate here
2b
not sufficient for purpose from engineering point of view (as expressed as
well be few here on this motto)
2c
praying on general luck of fab process knowledge any assy should have in
basics at least :
than they would understand that by educating themselves they'd be much ahead
:
2c.1
would become much more knowledgeable and informed
2c.2
would be able to communicate with their fab shop without translators (like
lawyers some need, capish ?)
2c.3
would save a lot of money
2c.4
would be able to design that much better
2c.x
Could go forever (upon request offline)for those who genuinely are missing
the lateral picture .
(Keep Earl or so (fab fellow) on copy as I may miss something)
Let me know (off line please) should you need any more clarifications .
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Semen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, 26 October 1999 11:54
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] PCB shop auditing
Is there a translation program out there for this?
>From: Paul Klasek <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: "TechNet E-Mail Forum." <[log in to unmask]>, Paul Klasek
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] PCB shop auditing
>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:36:09 +1000
>
>Some sit on starting blocks year around Mike ;
>wouldn't see that much into it ; still :
>with all due respect I could imagine my reaction if i'd be in Earl's or so
>shoes :
>and here comes 007 to "audit" . Can see Earl's grin from here (crunching
>James for a breakfast with muffins).
>Kathy was right with the "analog" black art ; slim hope for wishful
>missionaries.
>Hiring bondie ? From myopic mgr's, perhaps, not eng's .
>Sounds like a Dilbert story
>
>Paul Klasek
>ResMed
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Fenner [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Tuesday, 26 October 1999 4:13
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] PCB shop auditing
>
>
>Well I am pleased that there is to be a valuable new service, but.....
>maybe
>its just an
>excess of Monday which is giving me a slightly used feeling, narrh ... this
>is just an
>amazing coincidence, great minds and so on.
>
>Mike
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Roland <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: 25 October 1999 09:54
>Subject: Re: [TN] PCB shop auditing
>
>
> > Hi TechNetters,
> >
> > Your thread is expressing a need and concern we at PCB007.com believe
>PCB
> > buyers are concerned with.
> >
> > We are auditing PCB Manufacturers World-wide in order to offer a service
>to
> > PCB Buyers. The audit itself is based on over 20 years of experience in
>the
> > PCB manufacturing and relationship with Buyers. Our auditors are
>therefore
> > qualified people based on several continents.
> >
> > The audits we do, is to replace the need for Buyers to do it themselves,
>to
> > reduce the number of audits for the Manufacturers, and to offer to the
> > Buyers a wide spectrum of Audited PCB manufacturers World-wide. It
>should
> > also reduce costs on both sides.
> >
> > ISO 9000 is not considered as a proof of quality, but is helping
>speed-up
> > the audits.
> >
> >
> > For us, it fits into a wider context, which is the following:
> >
> > The principle is simple, the model existing in several other industries
>and
> > the trend ineluctable.
> >
> > Info-Elec, Ltd positions itself neutrally, between the PCBs Buyers and
>the
> > Manufacturers, by the mean of Internet Web Site (will be operational on
>9th
> > of November for Productronica,
> >
> >
> > It has been designed for the Buyers to anonymously place their Request
>For
> > Quotations (RFQs)
> > To
> > Manufacturers, also anonymous, we have audited, that are specialized
>into
> > the type of PCBs requested and to whom we are sending the RFQ's
>World-wide.
> > Then we will get the quotes back, sort them by Countries, Prices,
>delivery
> > confidence (% on-Time) and few parameters particular to the
>Manufacturers
> > for the Buyer to choose from....
>
>SNIP
>
>.....of about 30 people as of today.
> >
> > I tried to avoid sending you all a sales pitch, therefore for the
>interested
> > ones, please contact me off-TechNet for further questions, PCB007
> > representative and audit planning in your area.
> >
> > With respects
> >
> > Roland Jaquet
> > [log in to unmask]
> > Info-Elec Ltd.
> > PCB007.com
> > E-Business
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Hi TechNetters,
> >
> > In a discussion with some fellow engineers we discussed the potential
>need
> > for a service that audits PCB shops for end users. The service would
> > provide on-site audits of your PCB shops performing all the in depth
>checks
> > that you
> > would want to find in place at your suppliers shop.
> >
> > Do any of you think that there would be a need for such a service? All
> > responses would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark Mazzoli
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Mark,
> >
> > I think it would be a wonderful idea.
> >
> > I'd certainly be interested in participating in the program, let me know
> > what I can do.
> >
> > A need for this? He** Yes there's a need for this.......
>
>
>Snip
>
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