Okay Guys Chill Out.
I'd really hate to see these flames get any higher.
For the past year this place has been a mellow joint and I'd rather not see
it change.
Paul,
Steve shouldn't have to be a bare board guru just to assemble them or deal
with a bad bunch & figure out a fix.
Otherwise, anyone with a cell phone better head back to university for an EE
or a Physics degree. Luckily, I already have mine.
I'd hate to think of all the CS classes I'm gonna have to take to use my
Playstation tonight . . . or finish this e-mail.
He's asking for help/suggestions from the right source - Technet. In
particular, bare board folks, which voluntarily, includes you.
I'm hoping you didn't mean that post to sound the way it started, especially
since you did go to the trouble of sharing useful info.
Couldn't have said it better. In fact, I didn't because you already had.
Steve getting the right info has got to be better than running off with
incorrect info. I've seen that happen in the worse way and trust me. It's
not pretty. We are talking deep in the ugly forest. A car wreck in slow
mo.
Steve,
You are one of the Technet Internet Gods remember?
You know what you know and you know what you don't know, which I think
somebody once called wisdom.
You should already be working on your Technet Super Hero costume for
Halloween.
Paul just suggested you, the new guy there, ask your boss for a sabbatical
at a bare board shop . . . in the middle of this crisis.
Ha! That's rich.
So where do you want to go? . . . Australia? . . . San Jose?
LA is nice but the Santa Ana winds have the smog so thick you can't even see
Downtown or Wilshire from Griffith Observatory (which is really bad).
Steve, you shouldn't be the only person at your joint who is fired up about
this, are you? It does sounds like the honeymoon is over.
Let's play fair with respect, compassion and understanding. Remember this
stuff shouldn't matter too much when the weekend hits, unless you're working
it. :-)
Now, I'm going back to my spreadsheet from hell . . . but, that's another
post.
Hans
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Materials Engineer 380 Second Street,
Suite 104
Manufacturing Eng. Sec. Robins AFB GA 31098-1638
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen R. Gregory [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 06:53
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Two distinct layers of copper...
>
> In a message dated 10/6/99 5:32:00 PM Central Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> > It sounds as if you could all do with a couple of weeks in a pcb
> > manufacturing shop to understand how the boards you order are made
> >
> > Talk to your boss and suggest it, you may learn a lot
> >
> > Paul Brown
>
> Yeah Paul, you're right...I'm just a typical stupid user. This is the
> first
> time I've been in a position that has had to actually deal with crappy
> boards
> from a fab shop. At my past positions, all the work was consigned, not
> turnkey as it now. Our customers supplied us the boards and we just
> assembled
> them, if the board fell apart after they were built, it wasn't our
> problem.
>
> I was hired at my present position as a surface mount process engineer,
> but
> find myself being pulled into the PCB procurement and recieving inspection
> end of things because it seems I'm the only one trying to take the time
> out
> find out why we've been getting stung so badly with the boards that we
> buy.
> The problems that rear their ugly head only happen AFTER we've assembled
> many
> boards. Presently, and in the past, the way boards are bought here is that
> we
> get the gerbers and drawings from our customers, the buyers find a fab
> shop,
> and if the price is right, we buy the boards. I'm not in purchasing, I
> don't
> see the gerbers or drawings before they're sent out, I just see the boards
> when all the material comes together and we get ready to build them.
>
> Yeah, you can call me a typical un-educated user, but I'm trying to change
> that...
>
> -Steve Gregory-
>
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