Hi Earl -
You hit the nail right on the head.  Too many folks continue to want to take
the PW board for granted and don't recognize it as a key element in the task
of "design for manufacture".  It's producibility and materials are simply
assumed by many of the folks who are pouring their entries into all forms of
advanced devices.

In the past I've fortunately had the assignment of working very closely with
the PC Fab houses prior to commiting a product to design.  This has been
rewarding in terms of product developed, pitfalls avoided and personal
satisfaction.

Regards - Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: pod <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] PCB Manufacturers


>It really blows me away when, in the many places I've worked, we have/had
>design reviews for DFM, there was never a PCB fab representative in the
>meetings. There were plenty of other people from all other areas, but
>concurrent engineering was not practiced and DFM was? Can't be done. There
>can be no concurrence without all major players involved. Of course, there
>are a few board suppliers either incapable of involvement/communication or
>are just willing to sit back and take what comes. Many, however, welcome
the
>opportunity but are never asked. I don't understand how boards can be
>designed and assembled with such great thought, without including some
>extensive knowledge about how they are built.
>
>Earl Moon
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Paul Brown <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 2:39 PM
>Subject: [TN] PCB Manufacturers
>
>
>> Well
>>
>> So far we have managed to obtain about 5 replies from PCB manufacturers
>out
>> of how may thousands worldwide
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a way of getting them involved ?
>>
>> Surely its about time that the people that use PCB,s( PWB,s) started
>talking
>> to the people that make them!
>>
>> I used to be a specialty chemical supplier to the PCB industry in the UK
>and
>> realized a long time ago that users of pcbs don't talk to the
>manufacturers,
>> they send them a design and that's it
>> The problem is users don't often understand the processes involved in
>> manufacture
>>
>> Any comments
>>
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