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Jack Olson <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:55:34 -0700
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Yes, but the person asked if he should MAXIMIZE the pad sizes because that
is what IPC says you should do in IPC-2221 9.1.1, but I have never heard of
anyone doing that

(and thanks for the ego boost)

Jack (the talented and experienced but still somewhat humble layout guy)

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   [log in to unmask]
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]

                Jack,

                First, let me correct your self perception:  You are NOT
"just a lowly layout
                guy"!  ;-)  No need to be humble here.  Stand up and take
pride!!

                Second, it is my understanding the IPC makes recommendations
for pad sizes which
                will accomodate most every vendors' process.  So,  perhaps
the best thing to do
                is start with that but then go to your assembly shop and ask
their opinion of
                whether the pad size(s) is/are suitable as is, or if it
could be reduced to some
                degree.  I personally use the guidelines given by SMT Plus
as it seems to be a
                tweeked basis of the IPC standards and have had no trouble
whatsoever.

                Best regards,

                Bill Gebhardt
                Electrical Engineer/PCB Designer
                Overland Data Inc.
                San Diego, CA





                Jack Olson <[log in to unmask]> on 09/24/99 09:16:48 AM

                That is a really good question, but I don't know how much
response you will
                get, because in my experience it is usually the opposite
that happens. The
                assembler wants to reduce the pad size and corresponding
amount of solder
                paste applied. I've never thought about how IPC says
minimum, and how that
                could be interpreted to mean that you should make everything
bigger if you
                can, because nobody does that! Everyone wants smaller
smaller smaller
                (except maybe big pads on through-hole for high-power
components, or
                something like that). So maybe you should take that "land
sizes should be
                maximized" statement with a grain of salt, since I believe
the IPC
                recommendations are already bigger than anyone else's out
there. (correct me
                if I'm wrong you guys, I'm just a lowly layout guy)



                                -----Original Message-----
                                From:   Mark Holmes
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
                                Sent:   Friday, September 24, 1999 1:09 AM
                                Subject:        Pad Sizes for good solder
Joints


                                All the data I have regarding pad sizes
(e.g. IPC-2221
                9.1.1) give examples
                                on how to calculate Minimum pad sizes,
usually from a PCB
                fabrication
                                standpoint. IPC-2221 states that all lands
and annular ring
                shall maximised
                                wherever feasible, consistent with good
design requirements
                and electrical
                                clearance requirements.

                                My questions are: How do I determine the pad
size that will
                give me the best
                                soldered joint?







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