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"Brooks, Peter" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
Leadfree Electronics Assembly E-Mail Forum.
Date:
Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:13:47 -0400
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Bob:

I was looking for comments from other component suppliers to the concept of
developing a "not to exceed" assembly profile. Specifically members of JEDEC
JC14.1 who developed these J standards in conjunction with the IPC.

Most of these people are in the West and they haven't come in yet.

Pete Brooks

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Martel, Robert [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent:   Wednesday, July 07, 1999 9:39 AM
        To:     'Leadfree Electronics Assembly E-Mail Forum.'; Brooks, Peter
        Subject:        RE: [LF] Component reliability at higher soldering
temperatures

        Peter,

        See the new J-STD-020A and J-STD-033.  Based on the limits called out
there
        for the procedures to use in rating a part's moisture level, you should
be
        able to derive not-to-exceed profile limits for your process.

        Bob

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Brooks, Peter [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
                Sent:   Wednesday, July 07, 1999 8:19 AM
                To:     [log in to unmask]
                Subject:        Re: [LF] Component reliability at higher
soldering
        temperatures

                David:

                Obviously there is a point (more like a cliff edge) where any
        component will
                fail. I have internally asked our reliability department to come
up
        with an
                assembly "not to exceed" profile (maximum ramp/cooling rate and
        maximum
                time/temperature etc) that could be used as boundary conditions
for
        this
                project.

                The comment that came back was that this is "IMPOSSIBLE"
considering
        all the
                different packages/materials used for IC's and Discretes.

                Maybe this is the time to consider the elimination of the solder
        assembly
                process?

                Peter Brooks

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From:   David Suraski - AIM
[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
                        Sent:   Wednesday, July 07, 1999 7:36 AM
                        To:     [log in to unmask]
                        Subject:        Re: [LF] Component reliability at higher
        soldering
                temperatures

                        Are there any component manufacturers involved in this
forum
        who could
                        comment on the issue below (and others)?

                        Thanks,

                        David

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Charbonneau, Richard A
        <[log in to unmask]>
                        To: 'David Suraski - AIM' <[log in to unmask]>
                        Cc: 'Seelig, Karl (AIM solder)' <[log in to unmask]>
                        Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 6:55 PM
                        Subject: Component reliability at higher soldering
        temperatures


                        >re: recent posting to IPC Lead-free forum
                        >
                        ><edited>
                        >
                        >we have found that most components can withstand this
extra
        heat w/no
                        >degradation to their reliability....
                        >
                        >David, I would like to respond to your comment.
                        >
                        >The feedback that we are receiving from our supplier
base
        is that the
                        higher
                        >soldering temperatures (even the lower 240 peak
profile)is
        a
                reliability
                        >concern for a wide range of purchased parts including
film
        capacitors,
                        >switchs, relays, connectors, crystals, hybrids and
        optoelectronic
                devices
                        to
                        >name a few.
                        >
                        >regards,
                        >
                        >richard charbonneau
                        >
                        >
                        >


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