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Steve

I am also with you and your friends. I can understand your feelings as I
also went through similar one. Guess what is in store for you. Coming
millennium is quite forgiving for engineers and technocrats. The business
scenario is getting hot and complex with every passing days , it is getting
difficult to run business without understanding it.
 GM like your won't exist for long if they do not correct their ways. I tell
you that company is doomed to closure pretty soon if they fail to correct
or change the ways they work.
As a bonus, you will definitely survive as you have a lot inside your head
as I vcan perceive from your postings on Technet.

Try out major search sites :
www.monster.com <http://www.monster.com>
www.nationjob.com <http://www.nationjob.com>
www.jobtrak.com <http://www.jobtrak.com>
www.careersite.com <http://www.careersite.com>
www.passportaccess.com <http://www.passportaccess.com>
www.net-temps.com <http://www.net-temps.com>
www.occ.com <http://www.occ.com>
www.career.com <http://www.career.com>
www.vjf.com <http://www.vjf.com>
www.joblynx.com <http://www.joblynx.com>
www.careermosaic.com <http://www.careermosaic.com>
www.townonline.com/working <http://www.townonline.com/working>
www.espan.com <http://www.espan.com>
www.hotjobs.com <http://www.hotjobs.com>
www.usresume.com <http://www.usresume.com>
www.americaemployers.com <http://www.americaemployers.com>

and many more.
Best of Luck !


Ashok Dhawan P.Eng.
E-mail: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>



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Sent:  May 21, 1999 1:53 AM
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Subject:  [TN] Could we have a job for STEVE , please

Sounds like that GM is a 100% economist. No experience from holding a
wrench, production only a 2nd order dull and brainless job. The present head
of Volvo car company has really had dirty nails and has built cars himself.
And could sure go back and build another one if necessary. He is only 50%
economist I think.
Possibly the roman arbiter elegantum thought the same about the engineers at
that time, as does Paul's GM. Unfortunately for that empire, they did not
rethink.
Sorry too without knowing the guy at all./Ingemar



> Well , Steve ; sorry to pull this one on you ; we "live"(?) only once
:
> Awww ! ; as you said ; not even a handmill for radials ?!? ;
> clipped on guillotine !? ; far out man ; I knew you work hard ; but
this is
> extreme ;
> it sure reminds me the Madras brass beaters :
> they sit on dirt road with bowl held with feet (aka vice) ;
> chisel in one hand and hammer in other ; and that's it .
> Basked weaving is the only better minimalist's ultimo .
> I admire them ; as I can wave solder on fry pan if it comes to it
myself
> (hope Werner does not read this);
> still not every philosophy can be applied (turn the other cheek is a
> classic).
> Being minimalist myself ; but handmills was the limit I draw line on
20
> years ago .
> Nowadays with 7 digits on the budget I can work ; instead of
tailchasing
> struggle .
> If you want a job in Sydney you can have it this week :
> we're just advertising for one more process eng. , consider yourself
> qualified ;
> only on present dollar exchange yo'd not get much over 30KUS .
> This lucky country considers the weather and beach as a fringe benefit
!
> I almost agree , being here , hey ?
>
> Now reading all of this and knowing all too well value of pioneers who
can
> drum up something from nothing ;
> I'll likely step out of my line of cultivated (believe it or not)
upbringing
> and do the unthinkable :
> Without your permission after detailed editing I'll flick your note
public
> to our legion of understanding colleguages ;
> because I know (as differ to think) you deserve better .
>
> My apologies mate .
>
> same goes for Jack and Hugo ; misusing the net here ; but lets face it
:
> do you know how slippery are tinted legs under even sharp and tight
> guillotine ?
> Broke me down in tears ; that's for sure .
> I worked once (and only) under this style of "management" ; yes, with
blunt
> guillotine .
> Pathetic story ; all too common as I see now .
>
> Could somebody please pull the fellow out of that hellhole and give
him a
> job before he'd run the risk of living upside down for the rest of his
life
> like me ? Or running frozen flats on tyres like Bev ?
>
> Just checking his X Files on IPC Archives should do as an attitude and
> aptitude reference .
> And, after days like this, he's still slogging tech class in evening
with
> mirages of hamburger flips ???
> Do I have to say more ?
>
> Thanks a lot folks  (read Steve's below)
>
> Paul Klasek
> http://www.resmed.com <http://www.resmed.com>
>
> And ; for first time ; the expressed opinions are my own , not of that
busy
> place I work for .
> Just in case somebody watched too many court soapies .
>
> HAVE A NICE WEEKEND TOO
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] <mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]>
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 10:24 AM
> To:   [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject:      Re: ?
>
>
> In a message dated 5/20/99 4:49:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  writes:
>
> << hEY ; you still out there ?
>  it's awfully quiet on your side .
>  hope you ok                               paul
        >   >>
>
> Hi ya Paul!
>
> Yeah, I'm okay...just real busy trying to tidy up things here where
I'm at,
> and of course the new General Manager here keeps calling me into his
office
> wanting to know why I want to leave. He's only been here a month and a
half
> and hasn't experienced what I've had to deal with over the past year.
>
> I've got no other engineers to help me, no QA engineer, no maintenance
guy,
> no facilities guy, it's just basically me and my operators. There's
another
> man here that was playing GM before XX hired this new guy, but he
doesn't
> know what goes on out on the production floor and he'll be the first
to
> admit
> it. He's more of a program manager kind of guy, hell of a nice man,
but
> hasn't been able to convince XX of anything.
>
> You said it best; it's been a thank-less job. XX hasn't said; "Good
job
> Steve" or "Thanks" once to me. I was the first employee hired here and
> set-up
> every piece of equipment in here by myself...literally. Rented a
forklift,
> uncrated everything, set it in place, and started it up. I've had to
think
> on
> my feet because I haven't had the proper tools to do the things I've
had to
> do here...XX would shoot me down everytime I asked for something. We
still
> are cutting our radial components off of the tape with a damn paper
cutter
> because he doesn't want to spring for something automated, can you
believe
> it?
>
> And the new GM wants to know why I want to leave? I'm fed up...fed up
with
> busting my butt trying to do a good job and not even getting a thanks
for
> it.
> I guess XX thinks my paycheck is thanks enough...hell I can make a
> paycheck flipping hamburgers.
>
> Awwwww, sorry Paul for unloading on you like that...but I think you're
one
> person who understands my frustration. The management here doesn't
seem to
> get it...
>
> Anyways, I've sure got a lot of leads from that post I made
yesterday...even
>
> Bev sent me a email. Said he wished he could offer something for me,
but he
> said since Nortel .....X
>
> I'm gonna get outta here...it's almost 5:30pm...I gotta class I go to
on
> Thursday nights, so I need to get my stuff together for that..
>
> Thanks for being a listening post buddy!
>
> Talk to ya' later buddy!
>
> -Steve-
>
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