All,
I use Veribest 98 and am looking forward to VB99 release in April 99.
I have used PCAD, MAXROUTE, PADS, SPECCTRA, TANGO and all are low end
junk but you can make them work with great effort and frustration. I
have hundreds of designs completed with these backwards tools. I did
everything I could to troubleshoot the tools and write code to fixup the
holes which I used internally.
Intergraph is POWERFUL and not in the same class with the above RIF-RAF!
The company is a class act. They pursue quality and get it into the
tool.
However, the software version VB98 is very hard to learn and training
cost are high.
The new software VB99 should be easier to learn.
If you can afford it, your production capacity will double or triple.
Customers can't feed the data fast enough.
So, much more work gets done at higher quality. The gridless auto
interactive route editor gives me the power to get things right without
much more effort.
The ECO process is smart. Just reload the netlist. As a service, I have
to work with outside netlists (Orcad etc.) It works VERY WELL, very
smart. Customers want changes fast and a smart ECO process is key.
If you use the tool on a real design, it will not take long to realize
what junk you have now.
I'm so glad to compete with all the other laggard and tired tools out
there and
the CAD companies' sorry excuse for "support" (read:extortion for
suckers.)
Low end tools are so weak! The "support" was poor and tool
"improvements" were made before BUGS were fixed. The "improvements"
didn't work well while some bugs are NEVER fixed. The BUGS hit you over
and over. You live with them year after year.
This reduces the enjoyment that the work can bring as you see products
come to life.
What pain is endured as they crash, as you rework, as ECO rips up wires
with the same connections but a different netname. The utter stupidity
of tool processes is paid for by the late nights and at the worst times.
And low end tools have "improvements".
The "improvements" are marketing gimmicks to draw new customers while
you paid for their development. A raw and bad deal!
Veribest emerges:
(but expensive compared to low end tools)
My life is better now. I can concentrate on the job and not bugs and
workarounds.
Constant CAD tool problems were so bad that I almost left the business.
I could get a job easily writing code or building hardware, but I wanted
my own business.
Now I ship higher quality boards and enjoy the work I do.
I make more money since I get more done.
Signed:
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Richard Paulson,
engineer, BSEE, BSCS
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PCB Solutions
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Hughes, Stephen J (Steve) wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I do not believe that this is the forum to enter battle with our
> respected competitors.
>
> However, I would also like to point out that VeriBest actually
> scored better than all the other vendors in terms of the quality of
> manufacturing data.
> Combine that with the score we achieved in the assigned tasks and
> overall, VeriBest PCB was the Real winner.
> It takes more than just scoring better in certain categories or
> completing the routing first, the reality is that you all have designs that
> have to be manufactured.
> Visit our website and request your fully functional PCB demo CD
> today to prove for yourself why we won.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Hughes
>
> Product Marketing Manager
> PCB Design
>
> VeriBest Inc
> 6101 Lookout Road
> Boulder, CO 80301
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> > ----------
> > >
> > >
> > > OrCAD, Inc
> > > Software: OrCAD Capture CIS (Release 9)
> > > OrCAD Layout Plus (Release 9)
> > >
> > > Zuken-Redac Inc.
> > > Software: Cadstar
> > >
> > > VeriBest, Inc.
> > > Software: Ascent L2
> > >
> > > Company: Cadence
> > > Software: Allegro Studio
> > >
> > > ACCEL Technologies, Inc
> > > Software: Accel EDA
> > >
> > > PADS Software, Inc.
> > > Software: PADS Power PCB
> > >
> > > Mentor Graphics Corporation
> > > Software: Board Station
> > >
> > >
> > > Hopefully this will help other designers also if their in the
> > > middle
> > > of making a decision.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone in
> > > advance!
> > >
> > > Brian J. Baltus
> > > Best Power, Inc
> > > 608-565-5118
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