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Justin Braime <[log in to unmask]>
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As far as I'm aware we're allowed to just pump our fumes straight out, here
in 'clean, green' New Zealand. Mind you, the NZ goverment banned all leaded
fuel here a couple of years back, so I guess it's only a matter of time
before Australian enviromental laws spill over here. I think we'll be
looking at filtration for our exhaust stacks real soon...

Justin Braime
Process Engineer - Compuspec Industries

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Klasek <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] Solder Fumes


>100 Ton's per year !?! ; far out ; looks like IBM itself is exempt !
>"Small guys" processing less than 100 000 kg's (are we on metric tone ? ;
>close anyhow ?) of solder per year !
>Well , have to admit, I don't fit to jap cars (height 'm talkin bout here,
>ok ?) ;
>so I'm really trying to comprehend the scope of your "exhaustive" answer ,
>if yo' know what I mean .
>Somehow my flabbergastation is gettin' worst still !
>
>See you                paul
>
>PS
>Nothing taken literally buddy ; going to hit the beach at sunset ; to
ponder
>over life in LA .
>Being on top of food chain accumulations 's got lesser risks here by the
>feel of it ;
>apart from steroids from beef and antibiotics disfunctions from poultry .
>But : as Patrick said ; fallin' accidentally the Empire Building, passin'
>each window :
>"So far so good"
>
>> ----------
>> From:         Stephen R. Gregory[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent:         Tuesday, 16 March 1999 5:16
>> To:   [log in to unmask]
>> Subject:      Re: [TN] Solder Fumes
>>
>> In a message dated 3/15/99 8:37:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>
>> << Hi Todd&Russ&Steve&Bev
>>
>> Just a point when you've raised the 6 month screening (quite right) : Few
>> HR
>> dept.s have the foresight of screening NEWCOMERS ; and occasionally get
>> company into serious poo when a fellow tramping for decades over silicon
>> valley with all of the chimneys for pigeon eradicating programs ; (I
don't
>> believe my eyes here as I read all of this ;you guys have it way too easy
>> over
>> there ; we have to have by law [not every buddy 's "aware" of it ,
>> regional to
>> councils as well] three stage filter [pre, HEPA , and carbon to humanize
>> bad
>> breath of wave maintenance guys ; able to discharge, optionally ; air
back
>> to
>> room] ; finally gets overdosed ! And there goes this >six sigma< fellow
in
>> crime "personally" preferring holes {which I'd understood} ; but in roof
>> !!! ;
>> no wonder I get all stuffy trotting seminars round LA !!!
>> You guys work like middle aged England's industrial revolution : Stuff
the
>> pigeons (literally) ; here comes the progress . I understand theyr's
>> etching
>> on your prized 3pack duco and shitting down Acropolis is not quite that
>> nice ;
>> still ; I'm flabbergasted .
>>
>> paul>>
>>
>> Hi ya Paul!
>>
>>      Flabbergasted are ya? Ya' shouldn't be...things aren't quite so bad
>> as
>> the picture you're painting of us...while there's room for improvement to
>> be
>> sure (don't get me started on MTBE's, California's way of dealing with
the
>> pollution of auto exhaust) we're not quite back in the middle ages. A lot
>> of
>> the things I was saying was meant quite "tongue in cheek" and not be
taken
>> literally.
>>
>> Here in the San Fransisco Bay Area we have a quite strict organanization
>> called the Bay Area Air Quality Management District under which all of us
>> printed circuit businesses answer to, and those that have dealt with
>> BAAQMD
>> know what I'm talking about when I say strict....
>>
>> The following is from Regulation 11 (Hazardous Pollutants)
>> Rule 15 (Airborn Toxic Control Measure For Emissions of Toxic Metals From
>> Non-
>> Ferrous Metal Melting)
>>
>> The first part (a) goes through all the definitions, then it gets into
the
>> regulation:
>>
>> (b) Requirements: No person shall operate a non-ferrous metal melting
>> furnace
>> unless the facility is in compliance with all the requirements specified
>> in
>> subsections B1 through B3.
>>
>> The section that really applies to guys like us is:
>>
>> (B3) Fugitive Emission Control
>>
>>         (a) No activity associated with metal melting at a facilty
>> including furnace
>> operation, casting, emission control system operation, and the  storage,
>> handling, transfer of any materials (except new sand) shall discharge
into
>> the
>> air any air contaminate, other than uncombined  water vapor, for a period
>> aggregating more than three minutes in any hour which is:
>>                 (i) Half as dark or darker in shade as that designated as
>> number 1 on the
>> Ringlemann Chart, as published by the United States Bureau
>> of Mines, or
>>                 (ii) Of such opacity as to obscure an observer's view to
a
>> degree equal to
>> or greater than smoke as described in subsection B3, A(i) or
>> 10% opacity.
>>
>>         (b) Dust-forming material including, but not limited to, dross,
>> ash, or feed
>> material shall be stored in an enclosed storage area or stored in a
>> manner
>> which meets the requirements of subsection B3 (a).
>>
>>         (c) Material collected by a particulate matter control system
>> shall be
>> discharged into closed containers or an enclosed system that is
>> completely
>> sealed to prevent any dust from getting out.
>>
>>         (d) Surfaces that are subjected to vehicular or foot traffic
shall
>> be
>> vacuumed, wet mpped, or otherwise maintained in accordance with a
>> District-
>> approved maintenance plan. The plan shall specify, at a minimum: the
areas
>> to
>> be cleaned, the method to be used, the required         frequency of the
>> cleaning
>> activities, and a method of documenting the completion of the required
>> activities. The plan shall be designed and      carried out in a way
which
>> will
>> meet the requirements of B3 (a)
>>
>> (C) Exemptions
>>
>>         1) Small Quantity Exemptions.
>>
>>         Facilities are exempt from subsections B1, B2, and B3 if they
meet
>> either of
>> the following conditions:
>>
>>                 (a) Melt a total of no more than one ton per year of all
>> metals, or
>>                 (b) Melt no more than the listed quantities of any one of
>> the specific
>> metals listed in table 1.
>>
>>
>> TABLE 1
>>
>>         METAL
>> EXEMPTION LIMIT (Tons per year)
>>
>>         Pure Lead
>> 400
>>         Hard Lead
>> 200
>>         Aluminum Scrap
>> 125
>>         Aluminum Ingot containing more
>> 125
>>         than .004% cadmium or .002%
>>         arsenic
>>         Solder
>> 100
>>         Zinc Scrap
>> 30
>>         Copper or Copper based alloys
30
>>         containing more than .004% cadmium
>>         0r .002% arsenic
>>         Type Metal (lead for linotype machines)         25
>>
>> So as you can see, by following the regulations there's a lot of us small
>> guys
>> exempt. Sorry things are so tough for you down under. I'm no
environmental
>> engineer, but do you really think all the regulations that you have to
>> deal
>> with are really necessary?
>>
>> I'm not going to try and debate that lead isn't a toxic compound, and if
>> it
>> were a perfect world there shouldn't be anything harmful to us humans
>> anywhere, but sometimes regulations can be "overkill", just as I'm sure
>> regulations can be ineffective sometimes. I'm just asking the questions
of
>> what is really prudent and neccesary?
>>
>> As far as you always being stuffed up down in LA, I'm pretty sure you can
>> blame that on the weather patterns, the geography of the LA Basin, and
>> cars.
>> Not my reflow and wave exhaust...I wouldn't do that to ya' pardner!
>>
>> -Steve Gregory-
>>
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