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100 Ton's per year !?! ; far out ; looks like IBM itself is exempt !
"Small guys" processing less than 100 000 kg's (are we on metric tone ? ;
close anyhow ?) of solder per year !
Well , have to admit, I don't fit to jap cars (height 'm talkin bout here,
ok ?) ;
so I'm really trying to comprehend the scope of your "exhaustive" answer ,
if yo' know what I mean .
Somehow my flabbergastation is gettin' worst still !

See you                paul

PS
Nothing taken literally buddy ; going to hit the beach at sunset ; to ponder
over life in LA .
Being on top of food chain accumulations 's got lesser risks here by the
feel of it ;
apart from steroids from beef and antibiotics disfunctions from poultry .
But : as Patrick said ; fallin' accidentally the Empire Building, passin'
each window :
"So far so good"

> ----------
> From:         Stephen R. Gregory[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:         Tuesday, 16 March 1999 5:16
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: [TN] Solder Fumes
>
> In a message dated 3/15/99 8:37:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> << Hi Todd&Russ&Steve&Bev
>
> Just a point when you've raised the 6 month screening (quite right) : Few
> HR
> dept.s have the foresight of screening NEWCOMERS ; and occasionally get
> company into serious poo when a fellow tramping for decades over silicon
> valley with all of the chimneys for pigeon eradicating programs ; (I don't
> believe my eyes here as I read all of this ;you guys have it way too easy
> over
> there ; we have to have by law [not every buddy 's "aware" of it ,
> regional to
> councils as well] three stage filter [pre, HEPA , and carbon to humanize
> bad
> breath of wave maintenance guys ; able to discharge, optionally ; air back
> to
> room] ; finally gets overdosed ! And there goes this >six sigma< fellow in
> crime "personally" preferring holes {which I'd understood} ; but in roof
> !!! ;
> no wonder I get all stuffy trotting seminars round LA !!!
> You guys work like middle aged England's industrial revolution : Stuff the
> pigeons (literally) ; here comes the progress . I understand theyr's
> etching
> on your prized 3pack duco and shitting down Acropolis is not quite that
> nice ;
> still ; I'm flabbergasted .
>
> paul>>
>
> Hi ya Paul!
>
>      Flabbergasted are ya? Ya' shouldn't be...things aren't quite so bad
> as
> the picture you're painting of us...while there's room for improvement to
> be
> sure (don't get me started on MTBE's, California's way of dealing with the
> pollution of auto exhaust) we're not quite back in the middle ages. A lot
> of
> the things I was saying was meant quite "tongue in cheek" and not be taken
> literally.
>
> Here in the San Fransisco Bay Area we have a quite strict organanization
> called the Bay Area Air Quality Management District under which all of us
> printed circuit businesses answer to, and those that have dealt with
> BAAQMD
> know what I'm talking about when I say strict....
>
> The following is from Regulation 11 (Hazardous Pollutants)
> Rule 15 (Airborn Toxic Control Measure For Emissions of Toxic Metals From
> Non-
> Ferrous Metal Melting)
>
> The first part (a) goes through all the definitions, then it gets into the
> regulation:
>
> (b) Requirements: No person shall operate a non-ferrous metal melting
> furnace
> unless the facility is in compliance with all the requirements specified
> in
> subsections B1 through B3.
>
> The section that really applies to guys like us is:
>
> (B3) Fugitive Emission Control
>
>         (a) No activity associated with metal melting at a facilty
> including furnace
> operation, casting, emission control system operation, and the  storage,
> handling, transfer of any materials (except new sand) shall discharge into
> the
> air any air contaminate, other than uncombined  water vapor, for a period
> aggregating more than three minutes in any hour which is:
>                 (i) Half as dark or darker in shade as that designated as
> number 1 on the
> Ringlemann Chart, as published by the United States Bureau
> of Mines, or
>                 (ii) Of such opacity as to obscure an observer's view to a
> degree equal to
> or greater than smoke as described in subsection B3, A(i) or
> 10% opacity.
>
>         (b) Dust-forming material including, but not limited to, dross,
> ash, or feed
> material shall be stored in an enclosed storage area or stored in a
> manner
> which meets the requirements of subsection B3 (a).
>
>         (c) Material collected by a particulate matter control system
> shall be
> discharged into closed containers or an enclosed system that is
> completely
> sealed to prevent any dust from getting out.
>
>         (d) Surfaces that are subjected to vehicular or foot traffic shall
> be
> vacuumed, wet mpped, or otherwise maintained in accordance with a
> District-
> approved maintenance plan. The plan shall specify, at a minimum: the areas
> to
> be cleaned, the method to be used, the required         frequency of the
> cleaning
> activities, and a method of documenting the completion of the required
> activities. The plan shall be designed and      carried out in a way which
> will
> meet the requirements of B3 (a)
>
> (C) Exemptions
>
>         1) Small Quantity Exemptions.
>
>         Facilities are exempt from subsections B1, B2, and B3 if they meet
> either of
> the following conditions:
>
>                 (a) Melt a total of no more than one ton per year of all
> metals, or
>                 (b) Melt no more than the listed quantities of any one of
> the specific
> metals listed in table 1.
>
>
> TABLE 1
>
>         METAL
> EXEMPTION LIMIT (Tons per year)
>
>         Pure Lead
> 400
>         Hard Lead
> 200
>         Aluminum Scrap
> 125
>         Aluminum Ingot containing more
> 125
>         than .004% cadmium or .002%
>         arsenic
>         Solder
> 100
>         Zinc Scrap
> 30
>         Copper or Copper based alloys                                   30
>         containing more than .004% cadmium
>         0r .002% arsenic
>         Type Metal (lead for linotype machines)         25
>
> So as you can see, by following the regulations there's a lot of us small
> guys
> exempt. Sorry things are so tough for you down under. I'm no environmental
> engineer, but do you really think all the regulations that you have to
> deal
> with are really necessary?
>
> I'm not going to try and debate that lead isn't a toxic compound, and if
> it
> were a perfect world there shouldn't be anything harmful to us humans
> anywhere, but sometimes regulations can be "overkill", just as I'm sure
> regulations can be ineffective sometimes. I'm just asking the questions of
> what is really prudent and neccesary?
>
> As far as you always being stuffed up down in LA, I'm pretty sure you can
> blame that on the weather patterns, the geography of the LA Basin, and
> cars.
> Not my reflow and wave exhaust...I wouldn't do that to ya' pardner!
>
> -Steve Gregory-
>
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