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        Okay, I must be missing something.  Can someone point me to the
        sentence that dictates the label is REQUIRED to be affixed?  I
        see where it speaks to a label and the contents of the label
        terminology and visuals, but I can't for the life of me find
        where it says it HAS to be affixed to the packaging!  I see a
        "should be", but I don't see a "must be" or "shall be"

        (Maybe it's too early!)

        Jan Pelchat


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Subject: Re: [TN] ESD labels
Author:  Paul Klasek <[log in to unmask]> at 0UTG0ING
Date:    9/24/98 8:08 AM


Ian ,
in line of what George said (requirement of marking exists) ; I quickly
churned through our tone of cycled bags and confirmed that apart from
pinkies (unreliable substitution anyhow) all of the bags are marked with
antistatic ("logo = label" ?) .
The way I see it, printed or sticked makes no difference (unless you
want to attach an assurance significance to the label "seal") .
Somehow (perhaps wrongly) I presume the print is there for a reason ?
Perhaps you folks work too hard ?

See you

Paul Klasek
http://www.resmed.com

> ----------
> From:         George Franck[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:         Wednesday, 23 September 1998 22:44
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: [TN] ESD labels
>
> Ian,
> IPC-A-610 requires that the Label be put on if the device requires ESD
> handling.  The determination that an assembly requires ESD handling is
> made
> by the design owner.  The requirements usually  appears as a note on
> the
> drawing.  If there is no design information/specs given to the
> supplier
> concerning ESD, I would argue, as you do, that there is no label
> requirement.
>
> If you have active components in the assembly, I would also argue that
> the
> design is incomplete, and that a note concerning the ESD status of the
> assembly should be included in the design documentation.
>
> Now for the interesting question.  Since the supplier did not affix an
> ESD
> label, can you infer that the assembly was NOT assemblied with ESD
> handling
> precautions.  If this is the case, do you want the product?
>
>
> "If you can't tell your suppliers what you want, don't be surprised
> when you
> don't get it."
>
> George Franck
> Raytheon Systems
> Falls Church Virginia
> "My Opinions are just that."
>
> ----------
> From: Ian Squires <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] ESD labels
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:14:08 PDT
>
> Guys/Gals/and those Undecided
> Our PCB's are normally supplied to us with an ESD susceptibility
> symbol
> label affixed. Note the word normally, a supplier has sent in a batch
> without this label. QA are now bugging me to reject as a non
> conformance. I
> think this  is uneccessary as the contract doesn't call it up, they
> though
> are insisting that IPC-A-610rev B  (which we ask the subbie to work
> to)
> makes this label a requirement......i disagree. Anybody want to take
> my side
> (or any QA ers want to close ranks).
> As always thanks in advance
>
>
> Regards
> Ian Squires
> Senior Production Engineer
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