Hey Matt (& Earl & Steve & the rest of us)
this bakin' way is cute !
Totally agree with the leather apron if full space suite can not be
hired from NASA ;
I went the dumpling way (like it steamy) .
1
Dress yourself it the mentioned skafander (incl. helmet)
2
buy couple of stainless soup servers (you look really funny in local
store following this sequence)
2
Surround yourself with steel buckets half filled with water .
4
Start create nice granules by pouring solder to buckets in circular
motion.
4.1
Chain use the buckets which ain't boiling at the time .
5
Collect the coins from the hat for the show of the day .
See you Earl (owe me a beer from proceedings) Paul
> ----------
> From: Matthew Park[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Saturday, 19 September 1998 6:02
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Seho Wave Soldering Process Procedures
>
> Earl Moon,
>
> Draining molten solder thru a draing hole (or plug) is a very
> foolish and cumbersome way. I know all wavesolder mfg's
> instructions point to draining solder that way. Speaking from
> years of experience of removing and refilling solder pots, there is
> only one practical, easy, hassle-free and safe way to do this. I'm
> just kidding. There are many ways but my way is superior and
> very professional. Here's my way of getting the job done:
>
> 1. You pretend to be a professional baker and run down
> to a home depot, bakery shop, or safeway. Don't forget you wear
> a heavy duty and heat-resistant apron. A bakery apron is no
> good.
> 2. Buy a number of muffin bakery pans, flat & shallow retangular
> bakery steel pans, a large soup spoon with a long handle.
> Spec:
> - muffin pans= non-sticky, hold 12 to 15 muffin holes per pan
> - retangular pans= large enough to place a muffin pan inside
> with 1/2 to 1" wall
> - soup spoon= 3 to 4" dia flat & open top, half-moon shape,
> non-sticky is better
> 3. Now run back to the solder pot and cool the pot temp to 200'c
> 4. Place retangular pans on the floor and fill them with cold water
> about half-way
> 5. Place empty muffin pans in retangular pans
> 6. Using the soup spoon, fetch molten solder in the spoon
> 7. Pour molten solder into muffin holes up to the top, just like the
> way you bake muffins. The water in the retangular pan will sizzle
> and evaporate. Add water if water evaporate a lot. It usually take
> 10 to 15 min to cool enough to handle.
> 8. Fill each muffin pan with molten solder
> 9. Once cooled, flip each muffin pan and drop it on the floor
> from 6" to 12" height. That will release baked solder muffins .
> 10. Bake solder muffins again as per the above instruction
> 11. Store solder muffins in a gallon-size bucket containers for
> dinner tables
>
> Baked solder muffins are much easier to put them back into any
> solder pot than a gallon-size solder chunk. Solder muffins do
> no harm to solder pot heater elements when filling an empty
> solder pot.
>
> If draining solder thru a drain hole, better you get a propane torch
> in case solder freezes or the plugging screw and hole gets
> clogged. I know you gonna have a fun torching frozen damn
> thing to flow like a water fall, but biting a solder muffin with your
> teeth at a dinner table is more delicious and untried heck of
> experience. I am not thinking right, am I? It's Friday anyway.
> What the heck?? lets be gone from work.
>
>
> regards
> Matthew Park
> NII-Norsat International Inc.
>
>
> >>> "Stephen R. Gregory" <[log in to unmask]> September
> 18, 1998 11:34 am >>>
> In a message dated 9/18/98 10:32:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> << Earl,
>
> Been there, done that.....we 'drained' the molten solder into
> containers
> that would form the solder into sizeable chunks that could be
> 'dropped' into
> the new pot. It is the long way around, but it worked for us at the
> time.
>
> I am assuming the 'old' pot is heatable....if not......'never mind'!
>
> Richard Hamilton
> Clemar Mfg. / Rain Bird
> [log in to unmask]
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Earl Moon [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 18, 1998 9:06 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [TN] Seho Wave Soldering Process Procedures
>
> (Snip)
>
> > Also would like to know, as our solder pots were damaged
> during shipping
> > (750 and 950 kg - wonder why the damage)
> >
> > Any information greatfully received,
> >
> > Earl Moon >>
>
> Hi ya Earl!
>
> Yep, Richard tells ya' right...I've had to drain a pot once or
> twice, and
> you just gotta heat the pot and drain it into some
> containers...pain in the
> keester for sure, but the only way I know to do it. You might give
> your dross
> recycler a call and see if they can provide you with some
> containers.
>
> That's what I did out here the last time I had to drain one, and
> they
> were glad to bring me over some. What they might bring over
> looks like round,
> gallon-sized, paper containers that kinda look like what ice
> cream would come
> in. I was a little leery of draining molten solder into paper
> containers, but
> if you lower your pot temps to just a little above liquidous, and
> don't fill
> them too full, paper containers do just fine. If you fill them too
> full,
> it'll
> retain the heat longer and the outside of the container will start
> turning a
> "golden brown"...kinda' got my adrenelin going a bit the first time
> I saw
> it...was worried that I was about to have a nice solder coating all
> over the
> floor!
>
> As to why your pot got damaged, shipping the machine with a
> full pot of
> solder is done all the time, but really it's not a normal way of
> shipping. If
> the machine wasn't prepared correctly for shipping with a full pot
> or the van
> line did a little "four wheeling" so to speak, a machine can get
> damaged
> pretty easily with a full pot. Wave machines aren't made to move
> around with a
> full pot.
>
> One place I worked at we had bought an Electrovert UltraPak
> with a full
> pot, and when we were spotting it into where it was going to be
> installed, the
> guy on the forklift sat the machine down a little quick...it didn't
> appear
> that it was too quick that it would cause damage, but with the full
> pot the
> frame of the machine wound-up being tweeked, and we had to
> ship the machine
> back to the factory to get fixed, they couldn't do it in the field.
>
> So, you might make sure nothing else got damaged besides the
> pots. On the
> machine of ours the pot was fine, the frame was the only thing
> that got hurt.
>
> Sounds like you got your hands full pardner!
>
> -Steve Gregory-
>
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