Good Day!
  My Designers Council e-mails have been rerouted internally through a
maillink that is going to be disconnected soon.  The following is the
address that appears in our error file message.  I hope this will help
resolve the problem.

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        Brandon G. Luther
        Dataram Corp.
        P.O. Box 7528
        Princeton N.J. 08543-7528
        (609) 799-0071  x310
        FAX (609) 897-7035
        [log in to unmask]


-----Original Message-----
From:   L-Soft list server at IPC (1.8c) [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Monday, September 21, 1998 2:27 PM
To:     [log in to unmask]
Subject:        Your request to sign off the DesignerCouncil list

Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:26:52

No  entry for  your [log in to unmask]  address  could be  found in
the
DesignerCouncil  list at  JEFRY.IPC.ORG. Here  are a  number of
possible
reasons why you might still be getting mail from the list:

1. You could be subscribed under a different, but equivalent address.
For
instance, if  your e-mail address  as it appears  in the 'From:'  line
of
messages coming from you has the  misfortune of depending on the
distance
between your  workstation and the  terminal room door, you  were
probably
subscribed from  a different  address and, while  your mail  system
knows
that the two addresses are equivalent,  LISTSERV has no way to know
that.
In this case the only thing you can do, beyond contacting the list
owner,
is to  send a  "REVIEW DesignerCouncil"  command to  find out  under
what
address you are subscribed, and try to duplicate it with the help of
your
user support people.

2. If you are a BITNET user,  you might be subscribed under your
Internet
address and sending  this command via BITNET, or vice  versa. Most
BITNET
sites  have  registered their  Internet  addresses  in the  BITNET
nodes
database, BITEARN NODES (the "tag"  containing this information is
called
':internet' - if you do not understand  any of this, just bring a copy
of
this message to your user support people). Unfortunately, some sites
have
still not done that,  and in such cases LISTSERV has  no way to
determine
that, for  instance, BITNET  node XYZCOL1  is the  same as  Internet
host
VM3.XYZ.EDU. If  you suspect  this might be  your problem,  try
resending
your request via both interactive message (SEND under VMS, TELL under
VM)
and e-mail.

3. You  might be subscribed under  an equivalent yet different  address
-
for  instance, one  with explicit  gatewaying, or  an X.400  address
with
different  ordering of  the various  components,  etc. You  could send
a
"REVIEW DesignerCouncil" command and inspect  the list membership to
find
out whether  this is  the case, and  ask the list  owners to  remove
that
address from the list.

4. You could be subscribed to  the list under another account, from
which
mail  is  being  automatically   forwarded  to  your
[log in to unmask]
account. In that case  you should be able to leave  the list by
resending
the signoff request from the account in question.

5. You could be subscribed to the list indirectly, via a
"redistribution"
list. That is, one  of the subscribers to the LISTSERV list  is in fact
a
mailing  list, to  which  you  are yourself  subscribed  (note that
this
"sub-list"  is not  necessarily managed  by LISTSERV  and, in  fact,
such
lists are often manually maintained, in  which case the only way to
leave
the list is  to contact the person  who maintains it). Since  you are
not
directly  subscribed to  DesignerCouncil, the  only way  for you  to
stop
getting the  postings is to  contact the administrators of  this
sub-list
and ask them to sign you off.

You should be able to contact the  list owners by simply replying to
this
message (if you  do not know how  to reply to a message  in your
mailbox,
you can send a new message to [log in to unmask]
instead).

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