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Paul Klasek <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:01:27 +1000
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Folks we have an optimising software free (Thanks to Remy) ;
For multiheads it will still need a touch up (Nasir ?)
The IPC server did not want to hear about the oversized attachment ;
so you have to ask me John or me if you'd like to try it
Keep Remy posted with comments .
Read below

Thanks              paul
> ----------
> From:         Paul Klasek
> Sent:         Monday, 3 August 1998 8:46
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      FW: [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
>
> John ;
> there is still more work on it if you run a multihead .
> Maybe Nasir can reconfigure it faster, if you have 642 (most likely?)
> If you have a single head ; check it out .
>
> See you         Paul
> ----------
> From:         Paul Klasek
> Sent:         Thursday, 30 July 1998 16:23
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Cc:   Jeff Mallia; [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      FW: [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
>
> Hoooooolding ! chill out ; hearing you
> What is the flat for needle rotation ( = 644 parallel to feed tube ;
> 642 ? , single ? )
> that way we can rotate the program ?
>
> Yes, I'm very keen on thoughts
>
> What brain ?
> Enjoy the hypothetical absence of it for two weeks
>
> Thanks buddy                         Paul
>
> ----------
> From:         Shaafi
> Abdullah[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:         Thursday, 30 July 1998 12:23
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Cc:   [log in to unmask]; Remy Lim
> Subject:      RE: [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
>
> <<File: Nfop.exe>><<File: Fig 1.bmp>><<File: pic04541.pcx>>
>
>
>
> Hooooooold IT!!!!
>
> Paul, Remy forgot to tell you this is for a single nozzle program.
> Please
> take note.  Maybe we can give some thoughts about doing/treating the 4
> nozzles on your 644 as 4x single nozzles.
>
> I'm  off for my holidays already - brain will not be working well for
> the
> next 2 weeks.
> Shaafi
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Shaafi
> Abdullah/CamelotSingapore/Cookson on 07/30/98 01:19 PM
> ---------------------------
>
>  (Embedded
>  image moved   remylim @ speedline.cookson.com
>  to file:      07/30/98 01:28 PM
>  pic04541.pcx)
>
>
>
>
> To:   Paul Klasek <PaulK @ ResMed.com.au>
> cc:   "'Shaafi Abdullah'" <Shaafi_Abdullah @ speedline.cookson.com>,
> JeffM
>       @ ResMed.com.au, mbarden @ polyclad-usa.com (bcc: Shaafi
>       Abdullah/CamelotSingapore/Cookson)
> Subject:  RE: [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
>
>
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I can understand how you feel and I agree.
>
> Anyway, this program was written few years ago and it runs off at dos
> ,its
> not part of C.O.P.S..
> You should optimise using the camalot optimisation program before
> using
> this because this program does not optimise for you to run at the
> shortest
> distance. The concept how this program works is by scanning the whole
> "receipe" first and try to detect any conflict between the current
> point
> and any later point. If the conflict is detected then the current
> point
> will be placed to the last of the stack.
>
> This is not an official release, no copyright needed and non
> commercial. I
> am busy enough and programming is only my hobby.
>
> Here goes,simply follows these instructions:
>
> 1)Save your receipe into TXT format from the machine.
> 2) load it into the same directory as this NFOP.EXE
> 3)run NFOP
> 4)enter the FILENAME ,without the extension
> 5)enter the NEW FILENAME of which you want to use (Do not use the same
> FILENAME for Step 4 and 5)
> 6) enter the X dist between the foot and the needle (See Fig. 1)
> Value should follow the same standard use by the receipe ,ie
> metric/inch
> 7) enter the Y dist between the foot and the needle (See Fig. 1)
> Value should follow the same standard use by the receipe ,ie
> metric/inch
> 8) enter the Foot Thickness (Note: This value cannot be equal or
> bigger
> than value of step 6 and 7)(See Fig. 1)
> Value should follow the same standard use by the receipe ,ie
> metric/inch
> 9) Program will start to process the datas.
> 10) Wait for <Hit Any Key To Continue> which shows the changed receipe
> denotes program finished.
>
> (See attached file: Nfop.exe)
>
> (See attached file: Fig 1.bmp)
>
> Best Regards and have FUN.
>
> RL
>
>
>
>
> Paul Klasek <[log in to unmask]> on 07/30/98 08:23:08 AM
>
> To:   [log in to unmask], "'Shaafi Abdullah'"
>       <[log in to unmask]>
> cc:   [log in to unmask], Remy Lim <[log in to unmask]>
> (bcc:
>       Remy Lim/SpeedlineAsia/Cookson)
> Subject:  RE: [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
>
>
>
>
> Hi fellows
>
> Shaafi are you telling me you ( camelot ) knows about the problem AND
> keep the general populus in dark ???
> You'll be collecting baseball bat , not the money , if this is a fact
> !!!
> Where is the software ; as far as I see it it's paid for ;
> and I can invoice you for a lost time and sue for false advertising (
> it
> does NOT optimise now ! ) .
> ( Hehehe, as Steve would say )
>
> Hi Remy ; could you ship me that wonder please ?
>
> Thanks a lot
> Paul Klasek
> http://www.resmed.com
>
> > ----------
> > From:   Shaafi
> > Abdullah[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, 29 July 1998 13:55
> > To:     [log in to unmask]
> > Cc:     [log in to unmask]; Remy Lim
> > Subject:     RE: [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
> >
> > <<File: pic25799.pcx>>
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > All this people thinking thy're going crazy...think of the money we
> > can
> > make if we can save them all.  And guess what, we do have a genius
> who
> > have
> > a way to overcome this problem.  I have copied this email to him
> (Remy
> > Lim), formerly our agent's sales manager and now has joined
> Speedline
> > since
> > early this year as our semi-conductor manager.  Remy has at one time
> > designed a program to specifically NOT to step on already dispensed
> > pads.
> > WOW!  Now, lets collect the money.
> >
> > Remy would be contacting you shortly.
> > Shaafi
> > ---------------------- Forwarded by Shaafi
> > Abdullah/CamelotSingapore/Cookson on 07/29/98 02:51 PM
> > ---------------------------
> >
> >  (Embedded
> >  image moved   Paul Klasek <PaulK @ ResMed.com.au>
> >  to file:      07/29/98 10:25 AM
> >  pic25799.pcx)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To:   "'TechNet E-Mail Forum.'" <TechNet @ IPC.ORG>, "'Arroyave,
> John
> >       (FL51)'" <jarroyave @ SPACE.HONEYWELL.COM>, Jeff Mallia <JeffM
> @
> >       ResMed.com.au>
> > cc:   "'Shaafi_ [log in to unmask]" <Shaafi_ @
> >       speedline.cookson.com>, "[log in to unmask]"
> >       <Mark_Ba @ speedline.cookson.com>,
> >       "[log in to unmask]" <Mark_No @
> >       speedline.cookson.com>, "[log in to unmask]"
> > <Allen_D
> >       @ speedline.cookson.com> (bcc: Shaafi
> >       Abdullah/CamelotSingapore/Cookson)
> > Subject:  RE: [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi John
> >
> > I felt the same first time we "optimised" ; the board looked like a
> > cow
> > pasture ;
> > not amused at all .
> > With the outline we battle as much as you , Nasir is right ;
> > we can not rely on COPS . We program on machine , even that is not
> > simple.
> > Can you give me the contact on the German software fellow please ;
> > we'll give it a shot too . We'll have Shaafi here in October ; when
> we
> > address all the quirks .
> >
> > Nasir
> > would you have any insight on programming the dispenser off line
> with
> > unicam ?
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> > Paul Klasek
> > http://www.resmed.com
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:   Arroyave, John
> > > (FL51)[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent:   Wednesday, 29 July 1998 0:06
> > > To:     [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject:     [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
> > >
> > > Gentlemen,
> > >         I would like to thank you for your insightful information.
> > > This was
> > > a good sanity check for me.  I wasn't going crazy after all.
> > >
> > > Paul,
> > >         It seems that we were doing the wrong thing by utilizing
> the
> > > optimize function in this software package.  I had a feeling that
> it
> > > may be
> > > something that we were doing that was causing the foot to step on
> > > previously
> > > deposited solder paste.  You all have confirmed my suspicions and
> I
> > > will
> > > definitely not use the optimize function.  Could you please
> provide
> > > e-mail
> > > or contact information on the people that you mentioned in your
> last
> > > reply
> > > that had experience with Camalot machines.  Have you tried to
> > utilize
> > > the
> > > outline function in the C.O.P.S. software?  If so any success?
> More
> > > about
> > > this below.
> > >
> > > Nasir,
> > >         I wish I had gotten as far as you apparently had with this
> > > software.
> > > When I mentioned my problem with my fiducials, it was still at the
> > > programming stage, I have not even had a chance to test the
> fiducial
> > > function out on the machine.  I think that we may have different
> > > versions of
> > > the software.  The software that I am referring to is Camalot's
> > latest
> > > windows software for the Camalot solder dispensing machine:
> Camalot
> > > COPS
> > > version 1.50.
> > > What is happening is that after I have programmed all of my parts
> > and
> > > I am
> > > ready to translate my Neutral file (Mentor), along with my library
> > > parts
> > > that I have made, into the Calls and  Functions that the Camalot
> > uses
> > > to
> > > dispense the solder I get an error message.  This error message is
> > > apparently caused by the fact that at the time when the software
> is
> > > ready
> > > for me to translate the data, it gives me the option of specifying
> > > Layout,
> > > Fiducials, and Offset in a file that called the outline file.  I
> try
> > > to do
> > > so but, whenever I enter this information and try to translate it,
> > > this is
> > > when the program "bombs-out" and I get some sort of memory error.
> I
> > > have
> > > noticed that the values that are actually displayed in this
> outline
> > > file are
> > > not the ones that I originally entered.  I try to re-enter the
> > values
> > > but to
> > > no avail.  However, if I bypass specifying the Fiducials and
> > therefore
> > > bypass the outline file altogether I have no problems.  It is just
> > > that we
> > > purchased this software so that the machine would be fully
> automated
> > > and at
> > > this point it is not.  I even tried to contact the designer of
> this
> > > software
> > > out in Germany, but could never get him on the phone.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for the advice.
> > >
> > > John Arroyave
> > > Production Engineer (Plant #3 PDF Labs)
> > > Honeywell Space Systems
> > > 13350 US Hwy 19 N. M/S 802-3
> > > Clearwater, FL  34624
> > > Phone:  (813) 539-2272
> > > Pager: (813) 508-6700
> > > Fax:  (813) 539-4469
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> > > [log in to unmask]
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